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Date : 01-03-2015




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[02:56:52] <Abhishek> guys check this out http://glench.com/hash/#CLICK :D
[04:09:15] <darkprince> hello
[04:29:49] <Abhishek> http://glench.com/hash/#CLICK check this out !
[04:30:22] <vikramahuja1001> Abhishek, doesn't work in safari
[04:30:30] <vikramahuja1001> but does in chrome
[04:30:42] <Abhishek> oh, yeah :p
[04:36:30] <Abhishek> vikramahuja1001: did u notice something? did u check browser history ? :p
[04:37:03] <Abhishek> try reloading history tab everytime for new action
[04:37:40] <vikramahuja1001> but the history remains the same everytime.
[05:00:56] <Boquete_KiwiBoy> Hello.
[05:01:02] <Boquete_KiwiBoy> Hello.
[05:19:18] <Abhishek> vikramahuja1001: no, thats the thing, its filling browser history as well, wanted to improve it :p so that it happens but without changing history !
[05:20:04] <vikramahuja1001> Abhishek, Ok but is that even possible?
[05:21:38] <Abhishek> i think yes. thought something and trying :p
[05:26:40] <vikramahuja1001> Abhishek, like ?
[05:31:08] <Abhishek> vikramahuja1001: one way is very simple like using location.replace(url) which will replace the last entry with that url so it wont increase the list
[05:31:39] <Abhishek> but i was thinking something to manipulate browser history without any plugin. :p
[05:32:40] <vikramahuja1001> vikramahuja1001, I think replace should do the work and it seems it work on all the browsers.
[05:33:53] <vikramahuja1001> Abhishek, ^^
[05:34:06] <vikramahuja1001> Best of luck
[05:35:59] <Abhishek> vikramahuja1001: hahaha, yeah but manipulating history is notching my head :( let me read some privacy statements of few browser :p
[05:39:33] <vikramahuja1001> Abhishek, (y)
[05:42:35] <vikramahuja1001> Abhishek, Where do you from?
[05:42:47] <vikramahuja1001> Abhishek, Where are you from in India?
[05:43:26] <Abhishek> vikramahuja1001: i study in NIT-Trichy . Hails from Jharkhand.
[05:44:26] <Abhishek> u working :p ?
[05:45:13] <vikramahuja1001> Abhishek, No Studying in IIIT H. From Gurgaon
[05:45:51] <Abhishek> oh. :D did u participate in ByteCode on codechef ? we set questions :p
[05:47:25] <Abhishek> vikramahuja1001: http://www.codechef.com/BYCD2015/ IIIT H had many registrations ;)
[05:50:38] <vikram> Abhishek: It seems.
[05:53:37] <Abhishek> vikram: did u see this http://bugs.sugarlabs.org/ticket/4828 i don't know why this initial set up issues with some localisation files? looks bad on my activity. not able to go through it entirely
[05:57:07] <vikram> Abhishek: You started making PhysicsJS?
[05:58:22] <vikram> Abhishek: I can't look it right now. Have a deadline tonight. I will look it afterwards.
[05:58:56] <Abhishek> vikram: yes by yestday i finished two simulations mass-drop experiment & curve danger of cars on road. i have to optimise my code a lot :/
[05:59:19] <Abhishek> vikram: no probs (y) its not a problem now, i can deploy changes later
[06:03:48] <Abhishek> vikram: i liked ur components for imageViewer. Is it for web too ?
[06:29:16] poxid is now known as Bukiette
[08:21:35] <Abhishek> walterbender: hi, ping
[08:21:56] <Abhishek> i need your 10-15 mins for physicsJS
[08:22:20] <walterbender> Abhishek, OK
[08:25:29] <Abhishek> walterbender: so as i told, since i was not sure about the workflow/structure i started with these http://fpaste.org/191928/52163001/
[08:26:21] <walterbender> Abhishek, let's back up
[08:26:35] <Abhishek> till yesterday i made 2 things, one was mass experiments and other was car simulation on curves
[08:26:35] <walterbender> what is the underlying engine you'll be using?
[08:27:11] <Abhishek> walterbender: that u need to suggest. else i was doing it alone in canvas & js
[08:27:47] <Abhishek> but for high modularity definitely require.js and few suggested tools that sugar been using
[08:28:40] <Abhishek> walterbender:however i will have planned to use webgl as well for few ideas i have in my mind
[08:29:34] <Abhishek> but that's later. firstly i was focusing on these but later i thought lets ask u and decide what could be more productive start.
[08:30:15] <walterbender> you'll make your own physics model?
[08:30:31] <walterbender> I'm OK with that, but curious.
[08:30:42] <walterbender> there are a lot of models out there
[08:31:13] <Abhishek> what do u mean by model ? can u explain a bit. ?
[08:33:31] <walterbender> Abhishek, you are doing all the physics calculations yourself or are you using an existing physics simulator, e.g., box2d?
[08:34:37] <walterbender> it is just that doing things like calculating collisions for arbitrary shapes can be complicated and there are some libraries
[08:34:40] <Abhishek> walterbender: no i m doing everything myself. i mean why do u need model for calculation ? yeah precision might be a factor but i have learnt improvement techniques in calculations
[08:34:58] <walterbender> Abhishek, OK. I am fine with that, just curious
[08:35:50] <walterbender> so, what are your questions?
[08:36:40] <Abhishek> walterbender: for example lets say abt collision. i faced problems with collision a lot but tried to improve & could do but if required in such cases will use tools for best results. Thats fine
[08:36:50] <Abhishek> my question is abt workflow of physicsJS
[08:37:13] <Abhishek> What all to include. How to make it in a manner such that kids get most benefit out of it
[08:37:21] <walterbender> Abhishek, workflow for the user?
[08:37:26] <Abhishek> yes
[08:38:07] <walterbender> Abhishek, I imagine something similar to the current Python implementation: a pen for creating objects and the ability to pause and start the simulator.
[08:38:56] <Abhishek> I mean i can randomly make different different stuffs to make them learn physics, like gravitation, collision, skidding of vechiles, masses, reactions,etc but will that be a course for kids to learn physics?
[08:39:00] <walterbender> a few new things: the ability to program the creation and positioning of objects (essentially folding in the Turtle Blocks physics plugin)
[08:39:19] <walterbender> Abhishek, that is getting a bit ahead of the game
[08:39:26] <walterbender> we need the basic engine first
[08:39:52] <walterbender> I could imagine designing a series of challenges that mapped into some sort of curriculum
[08:40:07] <walterbender> but having a physics playground is the first order goal
[08:40:16] <Abhishek> walterbender: oh, i get u now, thats cool.. as well as simple.
[08:40:48] <walterbender> in Turtle, for example, I have Turtle Confusion and Turtle Flags which are challenges for the students
[08:40:58] <walterbender> but they are extensions to the core engine
[08:41:01] <Abhishek> walterbender: cool, this lets me think more the way u telling. i will plot a basic idea similar to current python version and few additional features. (y)
[08:41:05] <walterbender> the core engine came first
[08:41:13] <walterbender> +1
[08:42:15] <Abhishek> walterbender: thanks for your time :)
[08:42:30] <walterbender> sure... have fun
[09:12:15] <darkprince> ty221: ping
[11:27:45] <vikram> walterbender: ping
[11:37:13] <Boquete_> hello.
[12:04:46] <vikram> ignacio: ping
[13:09:52] <Boquete_> hello.
[13:26:01] <Abhishek> Most of us start from flop(kid days) & then we top(school days) & then back in college we stop being flop and top both :) #Random Thought. :p
[13:33:02] <Boquete_> hello darkprince
[13:33:09] <Boquete_> and Abhishek of course :)
[13:34:53] <Boquete_> walterbender, how is it to have own page in wiki? :D
[13:36:36] <darkprince> Hey boquete_
[13:36:42] <darkprince> How's it going?
[13:38:05] <Boquete_> Slower right now, there was few.. problems
[13:38:06] <Boquete_> darkprince,
[13:38:33] <darkprince> How's the site now?
[13:39:40] <Boquete_> I think same, ty221 is not online actually, and i just log in on pc.
[13:40:05] <darkprince> Okay, is there anything I can help out with? :)
[13:42:30] <Abhishek> Boquete: you can signup via openID and create your page on wiki but there is some problem with signup now, walter looked unaware about it.
[13:43:45] <Boquete_> Abhishek, http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Walter_Bender he should be here, I shouldnt be on wiki :D what can i write. "boquete - boy" xD darkprince now not :D
[13:45:05] <Abhishek> Boquete: i m saying about wiki.sugarlabs.org
[13:45:26] <Boquete_> I'm saying about wiki wiki
[13:46:54] <Abhishek> wikipedia ?
[13:47:04] <Boquete_> Yes
[13:47:05] <Boquete_> :D
[13:49:16] <Abhishek> why do u need page there. Btw you can always create a page there. Media wiki only runs that. But on sugarlabs having one may help our developers like this wiki.sugarlabs.org/go/User:Kabhi2104
[13:49:40] <Boquete_> I don't need
[13:49:45] <Boquete_> just telling its nice :D
[13:50:01] <Boquete_> google your self and you get results in wiki
[13:53:14] <Abhishek> Boquete: oh you greeting walter :) okay, hahaha !
[13:53:19] <Boquete_> Yes
[13:53:20] <Boquete_> :D
[14:10:55] Boquete_ is now known as Boquete
[15:04:10] <Boquete> walterbender, ping
[16:58:51] <BoqueteM> I need to check out Sugar Laps software and all this stuf
[18:40:19] <walterbender> hello all
[18:40:32] <walterbender> BoqueteM, you are welcome to make a user page in the wiki
[18:58:29] <vikram> walterbender: ping
[18:58:39] <walterbender> vikram, pong
[18:59:05] <vikram> walterbender: Is it a good time to discuss about Image Viewer JS?
[18:59:25] <walterbender> sure... not sure I have any new insights though
[19:00:10] <vikram> walterbender: This is the complete list of features that will be implemented in Image Viewer JS -> http://fpaste.org/191795/51555081/
[19:01:08] <vikram> and CamanJS will be used for that purpose with Jquery and ModernisrJS
[19:02:28] <vikram> walterbender: So when we look at the coding part , should the implementation be like similar to what is that of Image Viewer Activity ?
[19:03:17] <walterbender> vikram, there needs to be a plugin mechanism for adding new filters, effects
[19:03:42] <vikram> walterbender: As in connecting it with Turtle Blocks?
[19:05:06] <vikram> walterbender: Is there something similar made (plugin mechanism, In python or JS) which i can refer now and see how it is done?
[19:05:27] <walterbender> I have a plugin mechanism for Turtle Blocks JS
[19:05:43] <walterbender> upload json-encoded code snippets
[19:05:59] <walterbender> the json is generated from a python script from psuedo code
[19:06:08] <walterbender> (thanks samdroid)
[19:07:24] <vikram> walterbender: So something similar (the steps above) have to be implemented for Image Viewer JS in case of filters and effects?
[19:07:51] <walterbender> yes, I think so
[19:08:16] <vikram> walterbender: And this pseudo code that you are talking , how is it written?
[19:08:28] <vikram> walterbender: As in how does it generate semantics ?
[19:08:53] <walterbender> vikram, look at https://github.com/walterbender/turtleblocksjs/tree/master/plugins
[19:10:02] <vikram> walterbender: And the plugin which will be implemented can it also work for Turtle Blocks JS?
[19:11:06] <walterbender> I don't think the imageviewer plugins ans turtle plugins are necessarily the same
[19:12:41] <vikram> walterbender: Thanks. I will properly go through the Turtle Blocks JS code and see how it is done and will get back to you regarding how it will be done for Image Viewer JS.
[19:13:49] <vikram> walterbender: And one more thing do you think ModernisrJS should be used for detecting hardware(front camera specially) for the Image Viewer JS?
[19:20:50] <walterbender> vikram, I am not familiar with ModernisrJS
[19:20:56] <walterbender> will look into it
[19:21:49] <vikram> walterbender: thanks. i am not able to create a account at wiki.sugarlabs.org. Can you have a look at it?
[19:28:17] <walterbender> I can make it... send me details: name, temp. password...
[19:34:07] <vikram> walterbender: I have emailed you .Thanks in advance.
[19:37:00] <walterbender> vikram, should be all set
[19:39:32] <vikram> walterbender: What is my username?
[19:39:44] <walterbender> just like in your email
[19:39:48] <walterbender> Vikram Ahuja
[19:41:01] <vikram> walterbender: thanks , my bad. Figured it out. :)
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[23:23:44] <ignacio> NOTignacio, hi
[23:23:50] <ignacio> NOTignacio, ping
[23:28:06] <Abhishek> ignacio: pong , and i am NOTignacio :p
[23:28:14] <ignacio> :p
[23:28:17] <ignacio> happy birthday
[23:28:29] <Abhishek> :v
[23:28:38] <Abhishek> Whos birthday ? :p
[23:30:58] <Abhishek> ignacio: do u have some tough ctf question related to file permissions ! :p getting bored.
[23:31:28] <ignacio> That is why I hate
[23:31:32] <ignacio> to have 2 guys with the same name in facebook
[23:31:33] <ignacio> xD
[23:31:45] <ignacio> Abhishek, I'm bored, just looking 'free vps' https://github.com/search?p=5&q=filename%3Asftp-config.json+host+user+password&type=Code&utf8=✓
[23:31:52] <ignacio> I just turned down http://digiartes.com/
[23:32:54] <Abhishek> what u have Another Abhishek Kaushik as your frnd? wash ur eyes :/ :D
[23:33:35] <ignacio> another Abhishek
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[23:56:47] <Abhishek> ignacio: i dont think u would get one vps easily, oif urgent i could make u an user on mine. i tested ssh on few creds, didnt work :/
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