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Date : 02-03-2015

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[06:40:16] <Boquete_School> Hello
[08:30:26] <BoqueteM> walterbender: pingy
[08:38:41] <walterbender> BoqueteM, pong
[08:52:37] <BoqueteM> Pm walterbender ^ :)
[09:53:50] <meeting> hello
[09:54:25] <nicolas-2bca> hola
[09:55:22] nicolas-2bca is now known as tigrenicolas
[09:55:34] <tigrenicolas> hola
[09:56:57] <meeting> *hoa
[09:57:04] <meeting> Like *estan
[09:57:29] <tigrenicolas> helo
[09:57:32] <tigrenicolas> hello
[09:57:34] <Boquete> hayo
[10:52:59] * walterbender back in 5
[11:10:43] <ty221> Hi
[11:10:48] <ty221> walterbender: ping
[11:11:00] <walterbender> ty221, pong
[11:11:12] <walterbender> ty221, did you see the email I just sent?
[11:11:15] <ty221> walterbender: I just read your mail to list about text
[11:11:17] <walterbender> what do you think?
[11:11:30] <abhinav> walterbender, ping
[11:11:42] <ty221> I agree website should be simple
[11:12:47] <ty221> However there is a problem with UI
[11:13:04] <ty221> What should I use to work walterbender
[11:13:28] <walterbender> ty221, I don't understand the question
[11:17:52] <ty221> Should i make edits to my or sams ui? walterbender
[11:18:35] <walterbender> ty221, whatever you think will get us a quick sense of what this "simple" site might look like.
[11:18:43] <walterbender> we'll undoubtedly need to iterate
[11:25:41] <ty221> Ok
[11:34:53] <walterbender> ping ignacio
[11:35:25] <ignacio> walterbender, pong
[11:35:49] <walterbender> ignacio, I hacked the heap plugin so there is a heap per turtle
[11:36:47] <walterbender> ignacio, are you working on the music block?
[11:37:01] <ignacio> walterbender, I was trying something
[11:37:04] <ignacio> but no success
[11:37:08] <ignacio> so I stopped
[11:37:13] <walterbender> with tonejs?
[11:37:21] <ignacio> walterbender, yeah, my idea was to import the js from javascript :P
[11:37:24] <ignacio> the js = library
[11:37:26] <ignacio> but there is no way
[11:37:41] <ignacio> I need to add it to the index.html
[11:37:59] <walterbender> that is not the end of the world, is it?
[11:39:22] <ignacio> no its not :P
[11:40:33] <walterbender> I think we'd want it to be a standard block in any case
[11:43:00] <ty221> Ok walterbender I will mix up these websites
[11:43:36] <Kiwoquete> Hello
[11:43:53] <Kiwoquete> walterbrand im remembering you :D
[11:44:22] <goutamnair7> ignacio:ping
[11:44:36] <Kiwoquete> NOTignacio: ping xD
[11:44:42] <ignacio> goutamnair7, pong
[11:45:23] <goutamnair7> ignacio:Hey, I was looking at the ImageViewer repo of yours in JS and I am thinking of contributing there
[11:45:54] <goutamnair7> ignacio:I have a doubt, do know how you could get a list of images for showing next/previous images?
[12:01:23] <ty221> Kiwoquete: not rather reminding? Whats the point of saying i am remembering you xD ;)
[12:04:00] * walterbender back in 5
[12:13:05] <Kiwoquete> Ow yes reminding
[12:54:43] <parbhat> hello, I am new here can anyone help me about gsoc?
[12:54:44] <sugarbot> parbhat, Hi! Why don't you check out this: http://developer.sugarlabs.org/what-can-i-do.md.html
[12:55:53] <parbhat> I want to discuss a new gsoc project idea, I am wondering whom to contact
[12:56:18] <svineet> parbhat: you can subscribe to the mailing list and send an email there
[12:56:51] <parbhat> svineet: thanks
[12:56:52] <svineet> parbhat: walterbender can help too
[12:57:28] <parbhat> svineet: is it ok to mail walter bender directly
[12:57:51] <svineet> he is here, so you can talk now
[12:58:03] <svineet> it should be fine if you email him
[12:58:49] <parbhat> svineet: thanks
[12:58:58] <svineet> :)
[12:59:45] <parbhat> walterbender: hello, I am a gsoc aspirant and want to discuss about a new Project idea.
[13:06:03] <Abhishek> An open Question: How many of you cache your array lengths before your loops ? :D answer honestly :p
[13:10:37] <Abhishek> Are u this: for (var i = 0; i < arr.length; i++) or for (var i = 0, len = arr.length; i < len; i++) ? :p i have been teaching my girl frnd to follow 2nd one for last 1 year & she gets it now :/ :)
[13:14:56] <Abhishek> ty221: http://sugarlabs.org/~tymon/ in the nav section. Activities Home, wiki & social help should remain as option. When i click on one the entire list dis-appears and i m not left with choice to select other.
[13:16:44] <ty221> Abhishek: will check when bck home
[13:20:59] <GitHub6> [sugar] godiard pushed 1 new commit to master: http://git.io/xuRe
[13:20:59] <GitHub6> sugar/master 5552b95 Sam Parkinson: Select autocompleted activity search text...
[13:21:39] <GitHub18> [sugar] godiard closed pull request #476: Select autocompleted activity search text (master...overwrite-autocomplete) http://git.io/T0OTng
[13:56:50] <vikram> http://www.google-melange.com/gsoc/org/list/public/google/gsoc2015
[13:56:55] <vikram> :)
[13:58:27] <ty221> lol
[13:59:04] <Abhishek> yo yo :D
[13:59:24] <Abhishek> vikram: Thanks
[14:11:12] <samsongoddy> are there any one that is doing a related project in translate.sugarlabs.org??
[14:11:13] <Kiwoquete> Anybody here can create nice animations?
[14:11:21] <Kiwoquete> Or can draw nice?
[14:14:07] <Abhishek> Kiwoquete: animations as in on web ? can u make it bit clear?
[14:14:42] <Abhishek> drawing & creating animations are diff as far as i feel
[14:16:35] <Abhishek> Kiwoquete: i can write animations but bad at drawing. tell if u need help for sugar.
[14:16:50] <Kiwoquete> OW yes on the webb
[14:17:01] <Kiwoquete> Its about new page, sugar page
[14:17:11] <Kiwoquete> Just need some help i think Abhishek
[14:19:36] <Abhishek> okay, tell me the idea or share the page currently done. i have added here few of my animations/ sugar hacks, tell if u want similar. http://wiki.sugarlabs.org/go/User:Kabhi2104
[14:20:35] <Kiwoquete> We are creating page again :D
[14:20:40] <Kiwoquete> So i will give u some info soon
[14:21:20] <Abhishek> Kiwoquete: +1
[14:35:17] <zealfire> Abhishek:ping
[14:35:44] <Abhishek> zealfire: pong
[14:36:05] <zealfire> Abhishek:can we have a pm?
[14:36:16] <Abhishek> cool
[15:09:14] <ty221> Pootle is down!
[15:09:15] <ty221> http://www.downforeveryoneorjustme.com/http://translate.sugarlabs.org/pl/
[15:10:40] <ty221> Anyone from Infrastrcture Team???
[15:14:06] <abhinav> ignacio, ping
[15:14:12] <ignacio> abhinav, pong
[15:14:46] <abhinav> want some help related to turleblocks js
[15:16:09] <abhinav> and walterbender is not here it seems
[15:16:30] <abhinav> anyone else can i talk to regarding this?
[15:17:43] <abhinav> ignacio
[15:18:04] <ignacio> yeah
[15:19:03] <abhinav> who?
[15:19:45] <abhinav> ignacio, i am sorry i dont know anyone else who worked on turtleblocks js
[15:22:57] <Boczuete> Hay
[15:41:46] <artista> walterbender, ping
[15:44:17] <walterbender> artista, pong
[15:44:49] <artista> walterbender, Did you find something for the zoom in turtle art?
[15:45:03] <walterbender> artista, not yet
[15:45:06] <artista> walterbender, I was looking at graph plotter
[15:45:34] <walterbender> but panning (when the turtle goes off screen) should be no problem...
[15:45:51] <walterbender> although we'd have to resize the canvas
[15:47:00] * nemo_ resurrected meeting bot
[15:47:31] <artista> walterbender, yeah that's the issue .. since we have used Drawingarea it is difficult to resize it
[15:47:31] <nemo_> justice.sugarlabs.org had a hiccup
[15:48:17] <artista> walterbender, and rendering it again will obviously slow it as you mentioned
[15:48:24] <nemo_> hi walterbender
[15:48:33] <nemo_> hi artista
[15:48:45] * nemo_ = dogi
[15:48:57] <artista> hi nemo_
[15:49:01] <walterbender> artista, do we lose the graphic when we resize the drawing area?
[15:49:11] <walterbender> I don't recall
[15:49:14] <walterbender> hi dogi
[15:49:19] <nemo_> :)
[15:49:37] <nemo_> have to go ... ciao
[15:52:00] <artista> walterbender, I have not been able to actually resize the turtle ..... I have been only able to increase the canvas size which does not effect the size of the turtle
[15:53:13] <walterbender> artista, we just need to change the extent of the canvas, not its scale (or that of the turtle)
[15:56:58] <artista> walterbender, In that case didn't we will have to relocate the turtle position and re-render the graphics
[15:58:02] <walterbender> artista, I don't think so, but let's find out
[15:58:14] <walterbender> we may have to reposition the window
[15:58:37] <walterbender> and we may want to limit the scale at some point.
[16:01:01] <artista> walterbender, by limiting the scale u mean defining max and min zoom level
[16:17:52] <sambuddhabasu1> hello everyone
[16:18:12] <sambuddhabasu1> im new to sugar and im interested in contributing to sugar. can someone help me get started?
[16:19:11] <abhinav> walterbender, ping
[16:26:47] <bagl> sambuddhabasu1: have a look at http://developer.sugarlabs.org/dev-environment.md.html
[16:26:58] <sambuddhabasu1> thanks bagl
[17:03:08] <walterbender> artista, what I mean is that if, for example, I set the turtle xy to 10000000, 10000000, that makes a canvas we cannot render
[17:03:46] <artista> walterbender, ok got it
[17:11:04] <gauravm043> walterbender, ping
[17:15:15] <walterbender> gauravm043, pong
[17:16:05] <gauravm043> Hi walterbender , i have added some more changes to spirolaterals_JS activity (basic model) https://github.com/gauravm043/Spirolaterals_JS
[17:17:10] <gauravm043> walterbender, please have a look at it and suggest some changes if any as of now :)
[17:19:02] <gauravm043> and walterbender i was going through project ideas and found Programming to ReadJS activity very interesting,what sort of ideas should we incorporate in it
[17:19:46] <walterbender> gauravm043, I only have some initial ideas at this point
[17:20:02] <walterbender> but I think we could develop a pretty interesting experience
[17:20:18] <gauravm043> walterbender, yes :)
[17:20:44] <gauravm043> walterbender, i was thinking like an initial level could be to have a shape on right
[17:21:10] <gauravm043> and some code that one has to write to generate the shape
[17:21:13] <walterbender> I was thinking of something similar to Turtle, only you make sentences instead of stacks
[17:22:16] <gauravm043> walterbender, ok
[17:22:28] <walterbender> it would be a "whole word" approach rather than a "phonics" approach
[17:22:33] <ignacio> walterbender, meeting is in 40 minutes, right?
[17:22:40] <walterbender> ignacio, yes
[17:22:50] <walterbender> ignacio, just fixed a couple of more bugs :)
[17:23:26] <ignacio> and, I finished to play games, now started to work with the music plugin :P
[17:23:30] <gauravm043> walterbender, ok what i was thinking was to add some game sort of thing also where children have to write their own heuristics
[17:23:52] <ignacio> *block
[17:24:17] <walterbender> yes... that would come next... they can take "sentences" and make paragraphs
[17:24:36] <walterbender> and generate animations as well
[17:25:09] <walterbender> ignacio, "play games, all sorts"
[17:25:51] <ignacio> hehe
[17:27:13] <gauravm043> walterbender, do we need to define our own language set for that , or let the back end code being run in JS only
[17:28:21] <walterbender> gauravm043, I think we could leverage a lot of the Turtle code
[17:29:04] <ignacio> walterbender, what happened with the rtp's?
[17:29:10] <ignacio> update_all_rtp.py
[17:29:18] <ignacio> changed a lot of json files
[17:29:31] <gauravm043> walterbender, yes that will help ...
[17:30:40] <walterbender> ignacio, not sure.
[17:31:07] <gauravm043> walterbender, as a prototype i will try to make a shape generation activity with the help of [code (in form of sentences) instead of flowchart]
[17:31:18] <walterbender> I changed heap yesterday
[17:31:31] <walterbender> gauravm043, could be interesting
[17:32:24] <gauravm043> walterbender, :) ,can i implement the same in my spirolaterals_JS activity as of now
[17:32:44] <walterbender> that's fine
[17:32:55] <gauravm043> walterbender, :)
[17:35:34] <ignacio> wget https://raw.githubusercontent.com/TONEnoTONE/Tone.js/master/build/Tone.Preset.js
[17:35:34] <ignacio> ups
[17:40:01] <walterbender> ignacio, nice update to the json files
[17:40:32] <ignacio> more readable :P
[17:40:53] <walterbender> very important
[17:42:50] <ignacio> walterbender, can you remember me what music blocks we should create?
[17:47:54] <walterbender> frequency and duration to play a note
[17:54:19] <ignacio> thanks
[17:55:55] <ignacio> walterbender, so, its a block, with two args? Frequency & Duration
[17:55:57] <ignacio> ?
[17:56:11] <walterbender> yes
[17:56:21] <walterbender> similar to the one in the Python version
[17:56:27] <ignacio> oh
[17:56:30] * ignacio looks at python version
[19:06:05] <artista> gonzalo_, hello
[19:06:14] <gonzalo_> hello artista
[19:07:07] <artista> gonzalo_, seeing you after a long time :)
[19:07:23] <gonzalo_> artista, yes, long time disconnected :)
[19:07:45] <gonzalo_> first time i take one month vacation in my life :)
[19:08:27] <artista> gonzalo_, oh you must have had a great vacation
[19:08:37] <gonzalo_> yes, very good
[19:09:27] <artista> gonzalo_, I was interested in the project Turtle Blocks for in-line programming . Is this the right time to talk about it?
[19:10:12] <gonzalo_> artista, you really would talk with walterbender about turtle issues, but we are starting a meeting right now
[19:11:34] <artista> gonzalo_, ok no problem . Will talk later :)
[19:13:51] <artista> gonzalo_, BTW if you have some work for me in calculate activity or any other, I would really love to work on them.
[19:14:57] <gonzalo_> artista, we had a few hackers working on Calculate in the last months, I wonder if we can do a chat or mail conversation to plan what to do
[19:17:29] <artista> gonzalo_, sure i'll pass the msg to other hackers and maybe we can sit and discuss
[19:17:50] <gonzalo_> great
[20:12:22] * walterbender prepares dinner
[21:38:22] <vikramahuja1001> gonzalo_, hello
[06:38:41] [disconnected at Tue Mar 3 06:38:41 2015]