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Date : 07-04-2015

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[03:35:48] <jo0nas> will 0.106 switch to only use WebKit2? 0.104 uses both WebKit and (optionally but preferred) WebKit2 which no doubt leads to heavy memory burden
[09:59:25] <Abhishek> walterbender: hello, after a long time :)
[10:02:51] <Abhishek> walterbender: is it solved for u http://sugar-devel.sugarlabs.narkive.com/YKvAHgWF/sugar-web-activity-weirdness ?
[10:40:24] <abhinav> walterbender, ping
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[12:19:59] <satellit> bernie: did rm on a number of files in Tgilliard and /upload/images/Virtualbox hope that helps
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[12:58:59] <jo0nas> where is the source for the 3G XML database mentioned in https://wiki.sugarlabs.org/go/Features/3G_Support/Database_Support ?
[13:55:40] <bernie> jo0nas: maybe tch__ knows
[13:55:44] <bernie> jo0nas: he wrote the 3G support
[13:55:56] <bernie> satellit: thank you!
[13:57:49] <tch__> jo0nas, /usr/share/mobile-broadband-provider-info/serviceproviders.xml
[13:58:49] <jo0nas> tch__: thanks
[13:59:10] <tch__> jo0nas, mobile-broadband-provider-info is the name of the package in fedora
[13:59:12] <tch__> jo0nas, np
[13:59:23] <jo0nas> ah, that is the file I thought was - I simply didn't have that installed on my test system :-P
[13:59:49] <jo0nas> I do packaging of Sugar officially for Debian
[14:00:17] <jo0nas> ...so my environment is Debian
[14:05:06] <tch__> jo0nas, sugar packages are _very_ out of date for debian,
[14:05:15] <jo0nas> I know
[14:05:31] <jo0nas> arguably I am to blame for that
[14:05:32] <tch__> jo0nas, are you running sugar-build?
[14:05:36] <jo0nas> nope
[14:06:13] <jo0nas> Debian packaging is carefully hand-made, not automated
[14:06:39] <tch__> jo0nas, you could use Trisquel sugar packages?
[14:06:53] <tch__> jo0nas, those are up to date, maintained by quidam
[14:08:02] <tch__> jo0nas, brb
[14:08:17] <jo0nas> what I do right now is update the packages in Debian - inspecting the source of all changes. When done I will compare with various other packaging efforts to see if there are things relevant to cherry-pick
[14:08:29] <jo0nas> thanks for the suggestion!
[17:46:05] <samdroid> Hi, does anyone know whats going on with the icon paths in sugar (-build)?
[17:46:21] <samdroid> using Gtk.IconTheme.get_default()
[17:46:37] <samdroid> it only gives me GNOME icons, even though the sugar theme in in the search path
[17:47:14] <tch__> samdroid: gonzalo was looking into it,
[17:47:25] <tch__> samdroid: check with him, to see he had some insights
[17:47:43] <samdroid> thanks tch__ :)
[17:48:16] <tch__> samdroid: btw, I sent an email regarding the next devel meeting, made you could assist ;)
[17:48:26] <tch__> s/made/made sure/g
[17:50:22] <samdroid> tch__: Yeah, thats a very good time :) (for me at least :P)
[17:50:34] <tch__> samdroid: its ok here also,
[17:50:57] <tch__> its around 6 PM here
[17:50:59] <samdroid> so it is on #sugar-meeting?
[17:51:01] <tch__> also in boston
[17:51:04] <tch__> yeah
[17:54:53] <Abhishek> Happy Birthday ignacio :)
[17:55:57] <Ignacio_> Thanks :)
[17:56:10] <Abhishek> samdroid: ping !
[17:58:10] <samdroid> Abhishek: pong
[17:58:16] <samdroid> Ignacio_: happy birthday too!
[17:58:30] <Ignacio_> Its tomorrow in Uruguay
[17:58:31] <Ignacio_> :P
[17:58:33] <Ignacio_> Thanks
[17:58:43] <Ignacio_> Is in
[17:58:45] <Ignacio_> Lawl
[17:59:01] <samdroid> :)
[17:59:07] <Abhishek> samdroid: can u elaborate this icon paths issue? i didn't understand :p like to know abt it
[17:59:22] <samdroid> Abhishek: It's really weird
[17:59:31] <samdroid> Abhishek: Maybe you can test to?
[17:59:42] <samdroid> Abhishek: So open up python inside sugar-build
[17:59:46] <samdroid> then run:
[17:59:51] <samdroid> from gi.repository import Gtk
[18:00:01] <samdroid> t = Gtk.IconTheme.get_default()
[18:00:10] <Abhishek> how do it ? tell plz
[18:00:11] <Abhishek> *i
[18:00:33] <samdroid> print t.lookup_icon('computer-xo', 0, 0)
[18:00:42] <samdroid> Abhishek: Open up the terminal in sugar-build
[18:01:10] <Abhishek> yeah yeah
[18:01:12] <Abhishek> done
[18:01:15] <Abhishek> it gave None
[18:01:30] <samdroid> I know :(
[18:01:34] <samdroid> But it shouldn't
[18:01:34] <Abhishek> oh, 1 sec
[18:01:42] <Abhishek> got it
[18:01:44] <Abhishek> yeah
[18:02:12] <Ignacio_> Hey samdroid, how are you?
[18:02:15] <Abhishek> it should give other themes
[18:02:16] <Ignacio_> 9 weeks to go
[18:02:20] <Ignacio_> :D
[18:02:23] <samdroid> Ignacio_: good thanks :)
[18:02:26] <samdroid> Yay SF :)
[18:02:55] <samdroid> Abhishek: It is really werid, because sugar uses that same code to find the icon for the big xo person on the main screen!
[18:03:23] <samdroid> Ignacio_: You coming in early or staying late in SF?
[18:04:04] <samdroid> tch__, Ignacio_: what are your thoughts of using WebkitGtk2 throughout sugar-shell?
[18:04:10] <samdroid> I want to use v2 in social-help
[18:04:31] <samdroid> But help uses v1 and only 1 version can be loaded at the same time (per 1 process)
[18:04:32] <Ignacio_> Sam, option 2, stay at SF
[18:04:41] <samdroid> It is ok to move them all to webkit2?
[18:04:48] <Ignacio_> Well we need to upgrade
[18:05:07] <samdroid> But will we have issues with XO and stuff?
[18:05:15] <samdroid> Actually, CC Quozl`_
[18:05:23] <Quozl`_> hi.
[18:06:07] <Quozl`_> if possible, as jo0nas says, we should use only one version of webkit in everything.
[18:06:37] <Ignacio_> What is a XO?
[18:06:39] <Ignacio_> Jk
[18:06:45] <Quozl`_> heh.
[18:06:59] <Ignacio_> Xo are dissapewring here
[18:07:09] <Ignacio_> I mean, now a lot of classmates
[18:07:17] <Ignacio_> (Laptop models )
[18:07:20] <tch__> samdroid: have you evaluated the benefits of moving?
[18:07:29] <samdroid> tch__: Newer webkit :)
[18:08:00] <tch__> samdroid: that is good, but is there anything more "tangible"?
[18:08:06] <samdroid> Quozl`_: Is there a compat. isses with webkitgtk2 on the xo?
[18:08:48] <samdroid> tch__: It will get the new features :) Webgl, webrtc... they aren't going to webkitgtk1
[18:09:30] <samdroid> "the plan for WebKitGTK+ 2.6 was removing WebKit1"
[18:11:14] <tch__> samdroid: that is interesting, would be good to hear from gonzalo and walter regarding that, they have been working with JS activities,
[18:11:33] <Quozl`_> if there are, they should be handled by builds of webkit specific to the xo. for instance, on xo-1 it has to avoid sse cpu instructions. on xo-4 it has to avoid the just-in-time compiler.
[18:11:45] <tch__> samdroid: they should have a stronger opinion
[18:11:59] <samdroid> yeah
[18:12:10] <samdroid> Let's continue this on the ml... gtg
[18:12:13] <samdroid> bye!
[18:12:15] <samdroid> .quit
[20:37:32] <jo0nas> tch__: not sure if you saw my conversations with icarito - you are welcome to try out the packages prepared for experimental, I have made them available unofficially for Sid, Jessie and Wheezy at debian.jones.dk
[20:38:14] <jo0nas> add this to your APT sources.list: deb http://debian.jones.dk/ sid sugar_
[20:38:39] <jo0nas> replace "sid" with either wheezy or jessie as needed
[20:38:41] <tch__> jo0nas, I didn't, but I guessed icarito would be involved, since he was interested in making this happen
[20:39:00] <tch__> jo0nas, ok, thanks :)
[20:40:11] <jo0nas> activities still need updating - and a slew of them needs packaging from scratch - but that should be easy comparing to getting Sucrose into shape, which is almost done now (or so I hope)
[20:44:20] <tch__> jo0nas, do have the packaging files at some public repository?
[20:44:25] <tch__> s/do/do you/g
[20:45:05] <tch__> jo0nas, I only have experience packaging rpm's but is a good time to learn
[20:45:10] <jo0nas> all is public, yes: http://debian.jones.dk/pkg/sugar_
[20:46:47] <tch__> jo0nas, great!
[20:47:03] <tch__> jo0nas, are the activities there too?
[20:47:06] <jo0nas> git repos and status of Debian integration is here: https://qa.debian.org/developer.php?email=debian-olpc-devel%40lists.alioth.debian.org
[20:48:28] <jo0nas> http://debian.jones.dk/ only holds recent work not yet officially in Debian - which excludes any activities yet
[20:49:24] <jo0nas> so no activities are up-to-date yet - I am unaware if some of the older ones in Debian still works with 0.104
[23:21:05] <m_anish> bernie, hola! cleaned up abt 6G
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