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Date : 11-03-2015




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[03:23:01] <sehgalvibhor> utkarshdvd,Please visit http://wiki.sugarlabs.org/go/Summer_of_Code/2015
[03:23:40] <sehgalvibhor> utkarshdvd, It has the list of projects. Choose what interests you the most.
[04:18:23] <utkarshdvd> sehgalvibhor: I am interested in the Music Blocks idea
[04:19:19] <utkarshdvd> Previously I have worked with Processing.js and Arduino to build a system for teaching computational thinking to children
[04:21:01] <utkarshdvd> here is the link to the Tangible embedded and embodied interaction(TEI 15) paper
[04:22:13] <utkarshdvd> http://dl.acm.org/ft_gateway.cfm?id=2688817&ftid=1527855&dwn=1&CFID=617192169&CFTOKEN=87905093
[04:42:53] <sehgalvibhor> utkarshdvd,Why dont you contact the mentor of the project?
[04:50:02] <samdroid> utkarshdvd: Or send an email to the ml
[04:50:23] <samdroid> utkarshdvd: http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/sugar-devel
[04:54:28] <utkarshdvd> samdroid: i am joining the ml, and sehgalvibhor: the mentor is Devin Ulibarri, but I cant find his contacr
[04:54:33] <utkarshdvd> *contact
[05:00:42] <sehgalvibhor> utkarshdvd, try ml then.
[05:02:03] <utkarshdvd> ok
[05:24:04] <Abhishek__> samdroid: did u get the mai?
[05:24:43] <Abhishek__> samdroid: systems@sl.o was failing , so forwarded u
[05:25:31] <Abhishek__> samdroid: oh thanks, i just saw ur reply :)
[05:31:32] <samdroid> Abhishek__: thats odd
[07:31:21] <k_yash1> Quozl`: Hello!!
[08:47:32] <BoqueteM> /me shaking hand with everyone
[08:55:58] <nalin> Hi
[08:56:12] <Abhishek__> nalin: hello
[08:57:14] <nalin> I wanted to ask if there is some specific framework or debugger used for sugar labs development?
[08:59:54] <Abhishek__> nalin: http://developer.sugarlabs.org/
[09:00:26] <ignacio> .hi icarito
[09:00:33] <ignacio> .hi @ignacio
[09:00:36] <ignacio> .hey
[09:00:39] <ignacio> meeh
[09:04:01] <nalin> :)
[09:20:42] <vikramahuja1001_> gonzalo_: hello
[10:01:15] <Ceibal-7675> i9898
[10:01:19] <Ceibal-7675> i9898888888888888
[10:01:31] <Ceibal-7675> i9898888888888888888888
[10:01:59] <Ceibal-7675> i9898888888888888888888
[10:02:26] <Ceibal-7675> 4
[10:02:29] <Ceibal-7675> 5fñ
[10:02:30] <Ceibal-7675> ññlñ
[10:04:54] <gonzalo_> hello vikramahuja1001_
[10:28:26] <vikramahuja1001_> gonzalo_: Hi, I have made the changes in the document.
[10:30:19] <vikramahuja1001_> gonzalo_: I wanted to know about converting to video. Should it be in OGG format?
[10:39:25] <Abhishek__> gonzalo_: need to correct this http://i.imgur.com/58ZX395.png
[10:39:39] <svineet> NOTignacio: I see what you did there (͡° ͜ʖ ͡°)
[10:39:41] <Abhishek__> gonzalo_: says 2013 site and list of mentoring orgs :p
[11:27:18] <gonzalo_> vikramahuja1001_, video export is not the most prioritary feature
[11:27:33] <gonzalo_> i don't know if can be done on javascript
[11:41:23] <vikramahuja1001_> gonzalo_: I will check it, but pdf and image can be done. I have also added the libraries and the steps , what do you think about them?
[11:43:22] <pakistan_zindaba> bismillah-e-rehman-erahim!
[11:43:41] <pakistan_zindaba> aslam-wale-walakhum vikramahuja1001_
[11:44:02] <pakistan_zindaba> vikramahuja1001_: Bhaijaan kaise ho
[11:44:18] <pakistan_zindaba> gonzalo_: bhaijaan kaise ho
[11:44:33] <pakistan_zindaba> gonzalo_: pehchane humko?
[11:44:41] <vikramahuja1001_> pakistan_zindaba: Can I help you?
[11:47:42] <hafeez> Bismillah ir-Rahman ir-Rahim
[11:48:53] <hafeez> In the name of God, most Gracious, most Compassionate.I have decided to do GSOC.
[11:49:21] <hafeez> is some messenger of god present here
[11:50:00] <hafeez> vikramahuja1001_:aapke bahut contribution dekhe he humne
[11:50:10] <hafeez> vikramahuja1001_: kya aap hamri madad karenge
[11:51:41] <hafeez> ajay: Bismillah ir-Rahman ir-Rahim
[11:52:49] <hafeez> hum sugar lab ke nizam se roo-ba-roo hona chahta
[11:53:03] <hafeez> humara bahut sare gulam he
[11:53:14] <hafeez> unhone sab kuch aata
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[11:54:40] <kepta> walterbender, are you free?
[11:54:46] <walterbender> hi
[11:54:57] <kepta> I had an idea for new activity
[11:55:15] <kepta> Do you wanna discuss the possibility ?
[11:55:47] <walterbender> sure
[11:56:05] <kepta> This activity would be based on forming sentences,
[11:56:26] <kepta> We can add various difficulties like Tenses or grammar checking
[11:56:36] <kepta> The abstract view would be something like this
[11:57:03] <hafeez> walterbender: asalam walekum
[11:57:10] <walterbender> hafeez, hi
[11:57:45] <hafeez> walterbender: it's walekum assalam bhaijaan :/
[11:58:04] <kepta> walter a sec, I am generating the link
[11:58:07] <kepta> for image
[11:58:47] <walterbender> walekum assalam bhaijaan
[11:59:57] <hafeez> walterbender: Iam from syed mohammad hafeez yousouf from NICS lahore.I am interested in doing GSOC this summer.Can you guide me?
[11:59:59] <kepta> walter please have a look
[12:00:13] <kepta> http://s1.postimg.org/g8r5840cf/IMG_0766.jpg
[12:00:19] <walterbender> kepta, looking
[12:00:29] <walterbender> hafeez, what language are we speaking?
[12:00:32] <kepta> The top and bottom are the sentences which have to formed by the user,
[12:00:48] <kepta> using the input stream of blocks coming from the middle
[12:01:07] <hafeez> walterbender: urdu ofcourse :D
[12:01:10] <kepta> The template sentence ( guiding sentence ) would be given by the turtle on the right,
[12:01:23] <walterbender> hafeez, was my guess :)
[12:01:49] <kepta> like in this case , say level 1, the turtle says "The turtle is confused"
[12:01:51] <walterbender> hafeez, but I don't think I have ever seen Urdu transliterated this way... always in the script
[12:02:27] <walterbender> kepta, seems like the equivalent of Turtle Confusion for the Programming to Read activity
[12:02:29] <walterbender> nice idea
[12:02:30] <kepta> The user has to quickly choose whether the word coming from the middle stream goes up or down, depending on the scenario
[12:02:34] <hafeez> walterbender: I can work on URDU localization of the sugar labs
[12:02:39] <hafeez> walterbender: lol
[12:02:44] <kepta> Yes walterbender, but a little more gaming oriented
[12:03:01] <kepta> If the user misses the blocks destination the block flies and hits the turtle
[12:03:01] <walterbender> hafeez, I designed the Urdu keyboard for OLPC years ago :)
[12:03:06] <kepta> and the game is over
[12:03:08] <walterbender> kepta, ouch
[12:03:13] <walterbender> poor turtle
[12:03:38] <walterbender> hafeez, would be great to get the Urdu support back on track
[12:03:40] <kepta> The middle stream is constantly throwing blocks and the user has to decide where they should go, according to the template of the level
[12:03:51] <walterbender> hafeez, maybe you could start with Turtle Blocks JS?
[12:04:08] <walterbender> should be just a few minutes of work
[12:04:09] <sehgalvibhor_> walterbender,Are there any latest Sugar-Love bugs which are easily solvable ?
[12:04:18] <kepta> This way the student/user can leaern sentence forming, and also the game will keep him engaged.
[12:04:26] <walterbender> sehgalvibhor_, I think we are a bit short on those at the moment
[12:04:26] <Kristoffer> Hi Walter. Is it right that you want to build a learning platform for javascript?
[12:04:30] <hafeez> walterbender: Can you help me where to start
[12:04:55] <walterbender> kepta, I think we need to have the core platform running before we build your game
[12:04:59] <hafeez> walterbender: In the name of God, most Gracious, most Compassionate I would love to work with you
[12:05:44] <kepta> Can I make my application on this game, for GSOC?
[12:05:56] <kepta> what do you suggest?
[12:06:03] <walterbender> hafeez, https://github.com/walterbender/turtleblocksjs/tree/master/po
[12:06:11] <walterbender> I can add an Urdu po file
[12:06:19] <walterbender> but we should also discuss GSoC
[12:06:48] <walterbender> kepta, I think it would be good to fold this into the context of Programming to Read
[12:06:59] <walterbender> to give it more weight
[12:07:24] <walterbender> hafeez, do any projects appeal to you? (from our suggestions page)
[12:07:27] <kepta> Walterbender, I am really not sure what Programming to read is exactly
[12:07:38] <walterbender> or, like kepta , do you have any thoughts
[12:07:39] <kepta> Have you completed the illustrations
[12:08:14] <walterbender> kepta, check out http://people.sugarlabs.org/walter/images/programming2read.png
[12:08:25] <hafeez> walterbender: Which projects do you suggest acc. to my skills?
[12:08:38] <kepta> IF I am not wrong, the turtle has to be programmed to hover over the sentences or what?
[12:09:43] <walterbender> and turtle.sugarlabs.org?file=program2read
[12:10:47] <walterbender> hafeez, look over the projects at http://wiki.sugarlabs.org/go/Summer_of_Code/2015
[12:12:04] <kepta> walter the link doesnt open, it just shows a turtle
[12:12:20] <walterbender> Kristoffer, not exactly
[12:12:41] <hafeez> walterbender: My skills include fork bomb making,making trojans,cross firewall terrorism,sucide trojans.I would like to suggest Sugar Bomb.
[12:13:04] <walterbender> Kristoffer, this summer, we are hoping to further explore what Sugar actvitiies can bring to Javascript and what javascript can bring to Sugar activities
[12:13:12] <walterbender> but not full port of Sugar
[12:13:28] <hafeez> walterbender: By grace of God, I have done internship at ISAS labs,research alkaida
[12:13:41] <walterbender> hafeez, programming skills?
[12:13:44] <kepta> hafeez are you a troll?
[12:14:03] <hafeez> kepta: I am offended
[12:14:16] <sehgalvibhor_> Yeah, Sure he is.
[12:14:22] <kepta> walter, the link is not opening
[12:14:26] <hafeez> walterbender: was that not enough?
[12:14:44] <nalin> Hi
[12:15:29] <hafeez> walterbender: I can get references from hafeez saed , honourable al-bagdadi.
[12:16:47] <nalin> walterbender, I am not able to find documentation for sugar codebase as I wanted to know it,
[12:17:00] <nalin> I have also checked the http://developer.sugarlabs.org/ linnk
[12:18:07] <nalin> It doesnot explain the architecture very well
[12:18:27] <Kristoffer> walterbender i don't understand exactly what you where thinking of. Something like jsfiddle.net?
[12:18:52] <walterbender> Kristoffer, that is one project, yes
[12:18:57] <walterbender> but many more
[12:19:07] <walterbender> look at the wiki page for GSoC
[12:19:29] <walterbender> nalin, what are you looking for exactly?
[12:20:06] <kepta> walterbender, the turtle has to be programmed to trace a path through meaningful sentences
[12:20:09] <kepta> am I correct?
[12:20:32] <walterbender> kepta, I think we will add a special overlay to do the sequencing
[12:20:35] <Kristoffer> I would really like to apply a project like that in GSoC
[12:20:45] <walterbender> but you could program it with a turtle
[12:20:56] <walterbender> kepta, try loading the turtle plugin
[12:20:59] <hafeez> walterbender: Are you there? Will you now not talk to me as I am Muslim
[12:21:05] <walterbender> it gives more control
[12:21:17] <walterbender> hafeez, I gave you some suggestions
[12:21:36] <walterbender> please read over the materials and come back with serious questions
[12:21:55] <hafeez> walterbender: Ok sure
[12:22:01] <nalin> Something to guide me through the code base, like the overall architecture
[12:22:02] <walterbender> Kristoffer, look through the project suggestions and use them as a point of departure
[12:22:15] <hafeez> walterbender: You are a true messenger of GOD.
[12:22:23] <nalin> I just want to get the feel of the code
[12:22:31] <hafeez> kepta: U really offended me
[12:22:37] <walterbender> nalin, there is a somewhat out of date manual and also a guide to building sugar activities
[12:22:42] <kepta> hafeez, I am sorry
[12:22:43] <hafeez> kepta: My cousins will take care of you
[12:23:06] * walterbender wonders if it wouldn't be a nice idea to have a documentation project this year in GSoC :)
[12:23:15] <walterbender> nalin, one sec while I find you the links
[12:23:44] <walterbender> nalin, http://wiki.sugarlabs.org/go/Development_Team/Almanac
[12:24:02] <kepta> walterbender, the gsoc website says it is a coding event and documentation is a future plan which is not yet allowed
[12:24:07] <nalin> No problem, and I also wanted to ask can I send my proposal to sugarlab's maling list for just some advice and format clearance
[12:24:21] <walterbender> nalin, http://en.flossmanuals.net/make-your-own-sugar-activities/
[12:24:29] <Kristoffer> But if not as a learning platform, who will be the users of a application like that? Could it be used as a tool in a learning program for learning javascript?
[12:24:37] <walterbender> kepta, :(
[12:24:45] <kepta> :/
[12:24:52] <walterbender> kristianpaul, we cater to learnings 6-60
[12:25:32] <kepta> walter, In the link ?file=program2read , there are so many +start, how do I run it?
[12:31:12] <artista> walterbender, Hello :)
[12:34:10] <walterbender> kepta, hit the rabbit button
[12:34:14] <walterbender> artista, hi
[12:38:18] <artista> walterbender, I wanted to talk about debugging in Turtle Blocks for in-line programming project
[12:38:30] <walterbender> artista, right
[12:38:45] <walterbender> artista, the usual way to debug JS is to use the console
[12:39:27] <walterbender> but I am not sure that will always work for use
[12:39:38] <walterbender> for example, in Android
[12:39:57] <artista> walterbender,yeah :/
[12:40:19] <artista> walterbender, maybe if we can provide the logs as we have in python mode
[12:40:47] <walterbender> artista, maybe like in the pippy project, we can show them in a window?
[12:41:47] <artista> walterbender, I have not used pippy project :p. I will try it and get back to you soon. :)
[12:41:53] <walterbender> artista, +1
[12:44:29] <Kristoffer> walterbender i was thinking about suggesting something like this: http://beta.kristofferberge.no/img/suggestion.png
[12:45:38] <exploreshaifali> walterbender, around?
[12:46:08] <walterbender> exploreshaifali, hi
[12:46:16] <walterbender> Kristoffer, /me looks
[12:46:36] <exploreshaifali> walterbender, we were discussing about shared data and private data yesterday
[12:46:50] <walterbender> exploreshaifali, yes...
[12:47:29] <walterbender> Kristoffer, maybe contact Tony Anderson as he is the lead on this project?
[12:47:54] <Kristoffer> Is he on irc or can i get his email?
[12:48:04] <darkprince> tony_anderson@usa.net
[12:48:10] <darkprince> Kristoffer
[12:48:31] <Kristoffer> Thank you walter :)
[12:48:48] <Kristoffer> and darkprince
[12:48:56] <artista> walterbender, Ok . I saw pippy. It will be a nice idea to show them in a window.
[12:49:10] <walterbender> artista, +1
[12:49:56] <walterbender> exploreshaifali, I don't know how to make things private in git without going behind a paywall like on github
[12:50:05] <walterbender> we could build our own, I suppose,
[12:50:17] <walterbender> but I think we keep things public to start
[12:50:26] <walterbender> and make sure everyone knows that
[12:50:43] <walterbender> and we have some level of anonymity?
[12:50:51] <artista> walterbender, But can we show the contents of python debugging/ javascript console contents, because we are all the way trying to achieve an abstraction over javascript/python that can help kids.
[12:52:14] <exploreshaifali> walterbender, but why we need private data here?
[12:53:16] <walterbender> exploreshaifali, I am only thinking in terms of (1) the way convention concepts of school work and (2) protecting young kids on the web
[12:53:39] <exploreshaifali> walterbender, ok
[12:54:11] <exploreshaifali> walterbender, so for now lets plan something like - 1.develop a backend based on git that offer only 777 features
[12:54:27] <walterbender> exploreshaifali, yes
[12:54:37] <exploreshaifali> since it is based on git it will offer versioning, forking etc
[12:55:12] <exploreshaifali> walterbender, then 2 step is to develop a UI that allow users to use this database easily
[12:55:34] <walterbender> yes
[12:56:26] <exploreshaifali> walterbender, after getting this all done, what you think we will need to work for?
[12:56:42] <walterbender> exploreshaifali, and presumably we will put some glue between the backend the UI where we can manage some of the privacy concerns if we need to down the road
[12:57:05] <walterbender> exploreshaifali, I don't understand the question
[12:57:08] <exploreshaifali> walterbender, exactly... this is what I said yesterday
[12:57:50] <exploreshaifali> walterbender, it depends of the "control"(glue you mentioned above) part what a user should see and what not
[12:58:34] <exploreshaifali> walterbender, I was asking that like the one thing you pointed about private and shared data
[12:58:47] <walterbender> exploreshaifali, yes... in fact that is what github does to distinguish between public and private repos
[12:58:52] <exploreshaifali> walterbender, is there any other things that we need to keep in mind
[12:59:12] <walterbender> I think you've considered a lot already
[12:59:26] <exploreshaifali> hahaha
[12:59:48] <walterbender> I am still wondering about ways in which we might organize groups of projects a la a project team, classroom, or school
[12:59:49] <exploreshaifali> walterbender, so for me I think the main part is to develop a backend
[13:00:16] <walterbender> but that can be probably be pushed into the future
[13:00:27] <walterbender> the namespace you design should be flexible
[13:00:46] <exploreshaifali> walterbender, how they are gettting manage currently?
[13:01:23] <walterbender> exploreshaifali, they aren't... everything is individual to the user
[13:01:45] <exploreshaifali> walterbender, on their local machine?
[13:01:58] <walterbender> yes
[13:02:17] <exploreshaifali> walterbender, and now we want that to be stored in local as well as on our server?
[13:03:17] <walterbender> yes
[13:03:53] <exploreshaifali> walterbender, if so than we won't able to put user's data on github(being a public repo)
[13:04:05] <exploreshaifali> right?
[13:04:36] <walterbender> exploreshaifali, to be determined
[13:04:59] <walterbender> exploreshaifali, but if we have multiple users we need some sort of name space to manage them
[13:05:13] <walterbender> presumable there is more than one shaifali in the world :)
[13:06:30] <exploreshaifali> walterbender, okay, I think things will be more clear as we will move in the project
[13:07:56] <exploreshaifali> walterbender, Thanks!
[13:08:43] <artista> walterbender, But can we show the contents of python debugging/ javascript console contents, because we are all the way trying to achieve an abstraction over javascript/python that can help kids.
[13:08:51] <meeting> *HOOLA
[13:09:27] <walterbender> artista, I think so
[13:09:28] <exploreshaifali> walterbender, just one more thing, please can you point me where/how in turtle blocks a user will able to fork repo or perform any function that we are providing
[13:10:27] <walterbender> exploreshaifali, right now the way they do it is to down load a project, change it, and then either keep a local copy, save it to the server under a new name or overwrite the original
[13:10:45] <walterbender> that is in the JS version
[13:11:04] <walterbender> in the Python version, they have to "make a snapshot" to make a clone
[13:11:15] <walterbender> otherwise, they keep changing the same project
[13:11:35] <walterbender> or they can launch a fresh instance -- one journal entry per instance
[13:11:47] <exploreshaifali> walterbender, this JS version you are talking about http://server.sugarizer.org/activities/TurtleJS.activity/index.html?aid=5cb73962-1635-4cd0-b733-fbc115008038&a=org.sugarlabs.turtleJS&n=Turtle%20JS
[13:12:09] <walterbender> turtle.sugarlabs.org
[13:12:43] <walterbender> the sugarizer turtle project is deprecated
[13:12:54] <exploreshaifali> walterbender, oh okay!!
[13:13:09] <walterbender> exploreshaifali, the turtle source is github.com/walterbender/turtleblocksjs
[13:13:50] <exploreshaifali> walterbender, Thanks :)
[13:14:08] <walterbender> and the server is github.com/tchx84/turtleblocksjs-server
[13:14:44] <exploreshaifali> ok
[13:19:29] <artista> walterbender, Ok so, we would be showing console.log in a separate window
[13:19:49] <walterbender> I think so
[13:24:29] <artista> walterbender, and in the case of python, Do we need to show logs in a separate window or the logs will be sufficient?
[13:28:37] <artista> walterbender, are you busy? If so, we can talk later. :)
[13:29:10] <walterbender> artista, sorry... was AFK
[13:29:25] <walterbender> artista, like in Pippy, I think we should have a window
[13:29:26] <artista> walterbender, no problem :)
[13:31:28] <k_yash> walterbender,Hey!! I sent a mail today to the devel list regarding GSoC project
[13:32:17] <walterbender> k_yash, yes... I forwarded it to Devin
[13:32:25] <k_yash> There was a problem with yahoo, everytime I send a mail, it gets sent twice :(
[13:33:43] <k_yash> walterbender,btw thanks for forwarding :) ...
[13:43:59] * walterbender AFK for an hour
[14:22:09] <vikramahuja1001_> Abhishek__: there?
[14:22:23] <Abhishek__> vikramahuja1001_: yes
[14:23:15] <vikramahuja1001_> Abhishek__: Hi , Do you know how should i go about creating functions from array values in js?
[14:23:36] <vikramahuja1001_> Abhishek__: As in if my array[0] is "qwerty", how can i create a function named qwerty?
[14:34:10] <Abhishek__> vikramahuja1001_: sry my wifi driver has some issue, couldn't get u. can u tell again
[14:34:31] <vikramahuja1001_> Do you know how should i go about creating functions from array values in js?
[14:34:44] <vikramahuja1001_> As in if my array[0] is "qwerty", how can i create a function named qwerty?
[14:35:00] <Abhishek__> oh
[14:35:38] <Abhishek__> definitely u can't do var ar[0]=function() {} :p
[14:35:51] <Abhishek__> due to confusion is L value
[14:35:57] <Abhishek__> assignment
[14:36:47] <Abhishek__> but i guess best would be to write a method that could pass the function name as parameter
[14:37:31] <Abhishek__> u want't to create functions dynimaclly r8 ?
[14:38:24] <vikramahuja1001_> Abhishek__: Its OK, I figured something else. Thanks btw
[14:41:39] <Abhishek__> vikramahuja1001_: i thought of this http://fpaste.org/196818/26099273/ it should do that
[14:41:50] <Abhishek__> what did u figure out ?
[14:43:15] <vikramahuja1001_> Abhishek__: What i doing is tsmaking a function and passing some arguments and then working ccording to thise arguments.
[14:44:57] <Abhishek__> vikramahuja1001_: okay so instead of so many functions u have only one now & tasks are specific to array values ?
[14:45:17] <vikramahuja1001_> Abhishek__: yes
[14:45:50] <Abhishek__> (y)
[14:48:09] <Abhishek__> did u check es6 ? lot of heap reductions features :p though i couldn't do a workout , will do next week :p
[14:59:39] <vikramahuja1001_> Abhishek__: nope
[15:03:03] <abhinav> tch__ , ping
[15:20:53] <Abhishek__> vikramahuja1001_: can u suggest me some more features for physics_js https://github.com/stndlkr200/Physics_JS/edit/master/README.md
[15:22:17] <Abhishek__> currently only 2 experiments and basic playground is ready :(
[15:23:33] <tch__> abhinav, pong
[15:23:42] <vikramahuja1001_> Abhishek__: I am making a plugin system , i think you can do the same, so that a user can write his own games, projects without going through the code.
[15:24:09] <vikramahuja1001_> Although walterbender is the best peron to answer this question
[15:25:24] <Abhishek__> yeah he is just in :p hmm let me push the entire code. plus i need to do lot of optimization !
[15:34:24] <vikramahuja1001_> walterbender: ping
[15:47:27] <vikramahuja1001_> gonzalo_: ping
[15:49:49] <kepta> abhishek
[15:49:58] <walterbender> vikramahuja1001_, pong
[15:50:45] <vikramahuja1001_> walterbender: I have send you an email.
[15:50:58] <walterbender> just looking now
[15:51:49] <walterbender> working for me from Chrome :)
[15:51:58] <walterbender> looks good
[15:52:47] <vikramahuja1001_> Its good that it is working in chrome.
[15:54:44] <artista> walterbender, pm?
[15:56:53] <vikramahuja1001_> walterbender: Do you think this kind visualization is enough, or should there be something more to it?
[16:06:41] <walterbender> vikramahuja1001_, as far as the image viewer itself, it is fine for the time being
[16:08:38] <vikramahuja1001_> walterbender: Also what all specific functions have to be implemented as plugins in the project. Do you think there should be a undo button for each image?
[16:10:33] <walterbender> vikramahuja1001_, for sure undo
[16:10:56] <walterbender> as far as which plugins, I don't have anything specific in mind
[16:12:25] <vikramahuja1001_> walterbender: and what about the UI ?
[16:22:41] <Boquete> Hayo
[16:22:54] <walterbender> vikramahuja1001_, the challenge is how to make the UI for the designing of filters and effects
[16:22:57] <walterbender> Boquete, hi
[16:23:40] <Boquete> How are you walterbender?
[16:24:01] <walterbender> Boquete, doing well... squashing bugs
[16:24:07] <walterbender> how are you?
[16:24:20] <vikramahuja1001_> walterbender: I think it should be more on the line of TurtleJS. What do you think?
[16:24:46] <vikramahuja1001_> The UI , i mean
[16:24:54] <Boquete> It's ok. Busy in school, scared about future. :D Anyway waiting for ty221. Long time ago i saw him last time.
[16:25:19] <walterbender> Boquete, good luck with school
[16:25:35] <walterbender> and stay positive about the future... it is better than the alternative
[16:27:49] <Boquete> But it really sucks. Middle school is.. 4 years and its IT. We have Physic and Bioogy and geography,chemistry and all in first year, we don't have them for next 3 years. Point is that i want to pass into Colague where i need write final middle school exams for 100%. I need to pass MATH and PHYSIC. How the hell can i write exams for 100% (physic) when i have it only 1 YEAR! ..
[16:29:23] <Abhishek__> Boquete: which class u r in & country ?
[16:29:42] <Boquete> Now i'am first
[16:29:56] <Boquete> (so i have 4.. or 3 years left)
[16:30:09] <vikramahuja1001_> walterbender: pm?
[16:30:38] <Boquete> Such a stupid learning program, go to hell Poland.
[16:30:41] <Abhishek__> Boquete: for ur graduation r8 ?
[16:31:03] <Abhishek__> Boquete: which college thr ?
[16:31:36] <Boquete> so it's AGH in Cracow
[16:31:51] <Boquete> One of best schools in Poland
[16:32:25] <Boquete> http://www.agh.edu.pl/en/
[16:32:31] <vikramahuja1001_> Boquete: The ex- poland capital. rite?
[16:32:44] <Boquete> Yep
[16:32:50] <Boquete> But it was Time Time ago
[16:32:59] <artista> walterbender, we can write a script which just copies code into other but without the try:except and try:catch.
[16:33:09] <Abhishek__> Boquete: what are ur courses in 1st yr ?
[16:33:42] <Abhishek__> artista: yes :p
[16:33:44] <Boquete> In AGH they will have best "SUPER COMPUTER" - prometheys. Abhishek__ you mean school subjects?
[16:33:56] <Boquete> prometheus*
[16:34:04] <Abhishek__> yes Boquete
[16:34:31] <Abhishek__> can u name them
[16:34:38] <artista> Abhishek__, I think we can always use KMP and TSP there :P
[16:35:27] <Boquete> So: extended math, polish, english, russian, biology, chemistry, operating system, diagnostic, "pc commponnets"or something like that, economy, geography, education of security (life) , physic , history .. i think thats all
[16:35:46] <Abhishek__> Boquete: i m very interested in knowing country;s education system :p
[16:35:47] <Boquete> They are chaning every year almost. But subjects like Geography/Biology/Chemistry ends in 1st year
[16:36:30] <Boquete> They end but i will get more IT subjects. Anyway after that school we get "certificied" but without Collage is ... piece of paper anyway
[16:37:36] <Abhishek__> course outlook is good but why geography,economy biology etc for engineering ?
[16:37:57] <Boquete> They are only on first year just
[16:38:07] <Boquete> because they want spend more time for "IT" subj.
[16:38:12] <Boquete> and they say its useless
[16:38:15] <Boquete> I mean kinda its
[16:38:27] <Boquete> but not physic
[16:38:45] <Abhishek__> oh, this bad is in our college too, 1st yrs has to study all these pcm etc
[16:38:57] <Boquete> yep
[16:39:02] <Boquete> There are 3 kinds of school
[16:39:06] <Boquete> (middle)
[16:40:09] <Boquete> 1st. So its High School were you learn all this subjects like geography etc first year and you choose their what you want to specially learn : 1. Math/Physic/Geography 2.Polish/something 3. Biology/Chemistry. After this school you have nothing you need to collage or you r done.
[16:40:18] <Boquete> ow and its 3 year school
[16:41:03] <Boquete> 2nd is my school. (4 year school) . We choose IT/Economistry or something like that what you can study. After this school you can probobly get some job but collage is needede too. This two schools are best
[16:41:56] <Boquete> 3rd. Is the worst for people hwo dont learn etc. they are for future workers etc. After it you can get a job (but you will not get big money, really small)
[16:43:00] <Abhishek__> oh, so 2nd level schools have high job security , u mean ?
[16:45:46] <Boquete> kinda
[16:45:49] <Boquete> 50% xD
[16:45:56] <Boquete> 1st have like 5%
[16:45:57] <Boquete> XD
[16:46:04] <Boquete> But its the best choice
[16:46:41] <Boquete> Everyting suck. I wont get a job in future..
[16:46:58] <Abhishek__> Boquete: hehe, don't think like that
[16:47:36] <darkprince> Hey Boquete!
[16:47:39] <Abhishek__> keep learning and stay +ve as walter said :)
[16:48:42] <exploreshaifali> Boquete, please may I know from which country you belong to?
[16:48:42] <Boquete> I know it. I'm still not sure what i want to do. I tried.. Graphic - OK but nothing really really passion. Programming- idk nobody show me the cool way of it and specially nobody learn me that. I want to try "Networks" etc but i need to find some cool books. Teachers suck balls and they cant say anything interesting+ i dont want to wait 1 year to start learning it. I want it now. :v
[16:48:46] <Boquete> Poland.
[16:48:53] <exploreshaifali> ok!
[16:48:59] <Boquete> :)
[16:49:45] <Boquete> anyway it's scary me that i'm best in the class from IT subjects. I am not even good :D
[16:50:50] <Abhishek__> Boquete: hahaha, nice :)
[16:51:26] <Boquete> u guys saw new apple products?
[16:51:35] <Boquete> laptop kinda interested me
[16:53:51] <Boquete_> when first MacBookAir was the people said, "Okay good, good, that is fine, but there is no optical drive - I can not imagine a world without CDs". When appeared iPhone, people said, "But how is it, no Flash? HTML itself will never be as developed to replace it. "Now we got a MacBook with a single socket, which serves both charging and connecting multiple possible. However, the message is simple: the comp
[16:53:54] <exploreshaifali> Boquete, I saw apple's new watches!
[16:53:56] <Boquete_> uter for a world without wires. Now, such a world does not yet exist, but - as ever on CD, Flash, or MMS - the company is trying to prepare him
[16:53:59] <Boquete_> 10k plz
[16:54:01] <Boquete_> xd
[16:54:35] <exploreshaifali> xD
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[18:07:13] <k_yash> walterbender, There is an odd thing happening, whenever I send a mail to devel list it is getting sent twice :(
[18:07:48] <walterbender> I am not seeing doubles
[18:09:29] <k_yash> walterbender, that sounds good :) ...but in my sent mails it is coming twice...I don't know why *yahoo bugs* maybe
[18:09:54] <walterbender> maybe you are on the list x2?
[18:11:55] <k_yash> then the mails I receive should also be x2 (twice)
[21:11:58] <vinse> Hi everyone
[21:12:00] <vinse> How's it going
[23:37:50] <Abhishek__> Good mng :)
[23:40:04] <Abhishek__> waiting for april :p http://www.infoworld.com/article/2893706/mobile-development/javascript-native-ios-android-and-windows-phone-apps.html
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