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Date : 11-04-2015

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[11:00:48] <vikramahuja> Hello all
[11:04:55] <jo0nas> hello vikramahuja
[11:05:42] <vikramahuja> jo0nas: Hello .. have you seen this https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5bUYtgLhAfo. Was just looking at it.
[11:05:56] <jo0nas> I do not use youtube
[11:06:10] <jo0nas> what do I miss?
[11:06:52] <vikramahuja> It is a Ted Talk by walterbender.... named "Program or be programmed"
[11:07:44] <jo0nas> sounds interesting - now that I know the title I will try locate it on TED website
[11:10:08] <vikramahuja> jo0nas: Here you go : http://tedxtalks.ted.com/video/TEDxKidsBrussels-Walter-Bender;search%3Atag%3A%22tedxkids-brussels%22
[11:10:25] <jo0nas> thanks!
[11:10:44] * jo0nas won't look at it now - is in good flow packaging Sugar for Debian
[11:11:05] <vikramahuja> (y)
[13:10:24] <meeting> hello
[14:05:28] <tch__> jo0nas, ping
[14:05:40] <jo0nas> pong
[14:06:31] <tch__> jo0nas, there is no ticketing platform for reporting bugs to debian rigth? only that tool?
[14:06:40] <tch__> jo0nas, CLI one
[14:07:04] <jo0nas> there's email
[14:07:18] <jo0nas> the URL I passed you described tha various ways to reports bugs
[14:07:22] <tch__> jo0nas, OK,
[14:07:40] <jo0nas> at the core the Debian issue tracker is a listserv
[14:07:49] <jo0nas> dynamically spawning a mailinglist for each issue
[14:11:06] <jo0nas> tch__, Quozl`, icarito: please subscribe to the new mailinglist - I am abandoning the old one: https://lists.alioth.debian.org/mailman/listinfo/pkg-sugar-devel
[14:11:14] <tch__> jo0nas, sorry for the delay, I am in Caacupe (Paraguay), coordinating a hackathon to translate Sugar to Guarani
[14:11:44] <tch__> jo0nas, ok, done
[14:11:49] <jo0nas> I will also announce the move to the old list when I am done setting up a wiki page summarizing new setup, and will keep the old archive around
[14:12:38] <Boquete> hey bros
[14:12:40] <jo0nas> tch__: no worries, I am not on a clock (and definitely not one tied to your contributions)
[14:14:37] <jo0nas> that said, it _is_ nice to get the bug reported, as I intend to use that as reason for requesting not including Sugar in upcoming Jessie release - which is planned to happen few weeks from now
[14:46:21] * icarito subscribed to pkg-sugar-devel
[14:47:34] <samsongoddy> tch, ping
[14:48:39] <tch__> samsongoddy, pong
[14:48:52] <samsongoddy> i need some help with github
[14:48:59] <samsongoddy> i am kinda new there
[14:49:18] <samsongoddy> how can i view the sugarizer0.6
[15:11:36] <jo0nas> icarito: what branches of Sugar are in use at various deployments Worldwide? Still 0.84 anywhere? Which other branches, besides those having the luxury of tracking the latest & greatest?
[15:12:09] * jo0nas wonder which branches to kill in Debian and which to care about
[15:12:13] <icarito> jo0nas, I can only say from peru/colombia a bit from uruguay
[15:12:23] <jo0nas> ok better than nothing
[15:12:39] <icarito> well the only legacy sugar still slightly relevant is 0.94
[15:12:53] <jo0nas> ok
[15:13:21] <icarito> but I wouldn't try to support it in your place
[15:13:32] <jo0nas> bernie, Quozl`do you have a feel for branches of Sugar in active use Worldwide?
[15:14:13] <Cerlyn> jo0nas: You might get a better response in two hours when there is a development meeting going on
[15:14:14] <tch__> samsongoddy, you want to download it?
[15:14:24] <icarito> jo0nas, between peru and uruguay it's a big chunk of XOs
[15:14:36] <samsongoddy> nope just was to test it
[15:14:41] <jo0nas> Cerlyn: thanks! Meeting is here, or elsewhere?
[15:15:03] <Cerlyn> jo0nas: In #sugar-meeting at 2100 UTC
[15:15:03] <samsongoddy> i want to see the ibo locale
[15:15:06] <tch__> jo0nas, in 2 hours
[15:15:55] <jo0nas> my main priority is supporting the latest stable release, but find it relevant to keep the multi-branch structure established and keep 1-2 more branches active, depending on my/our attention span
[15:16:45] <icarito> jo0nas, current production image for XO1 in uruguay is 0.94 based
[15:16:46] <njathan> hi guys. I installed sugar on hard disk using liveinst.. the wiki says i should enter "firstboot", but i am getting fedora login prompt :( Any thoughts?
[15:17:02] <icarito> so is current production image for peru for XO1 and XO1.5 (the bulk of the deployment)
[15:17:26] <icarito> jo0nas, but those images are 2-3 years old now
[15:17:39] <icarito> and there's work into making current sugar perform well enough to update them
[15:18:25] <jo0nas> no need to try persuade me to not package anything
[15:18:27] <tch__> samsongoddy, to test it, you need to install git and then do in a terminal: git clone git@github.com:llaske/sugarizer.git; cd sugarizer; firefox index.html;
[15:18:54] <samsongoddy> okay great
[15:19:01] <tch__> jo0nas, will be god to have you in the meeting ;)
[15:19:04] <tch__> s/god/good
[15:19:09] <jo0nas> probably that git URL should be an anonymous one!
[15:20:00] <tch__> jo0nas, haha, no really, I am sure lionel wants it as much public ass possible
[15:20:26] <tch__> jo0nas, btw, do I need to repeat the reports for each package? or can I repeat the Package: Version: headers?
[15:20:27] <jo0nas> samsongoddy: in above long chain of commands, you probably will have better luck using this: git clone git://github.com/llaske/sugarizer
[15:21:22] <jo0nas> tch__: you should be able to file the bugreport against a comma-separated list of multiple packages at once (only comma, no space)
[15:21:45] <jo0nas> ...but I am not quite sure it will work - try! :-)
[15:22:04] <tch__> jo0nas, I will just repeat emails then,
[15:22:12] <tch__> litetally with the same report
[15:22:37] <jo0nas> if you repeat, you will spawn multiple lists, and get multiple replies, for each of them
[15:22:56] <jo0nas> it is most elegant when a single bug to file as a single one
[15:22:57] <njathan> is someone able to help with my problem?
[15:23:13] <jo0nas> njathan: sorry, I only know Debian
[15:23:26] <jo0nas> (but Debian I know quite well!)
[15:23:49] <njathan> jo0nas: ok
[15:24:24] <njathan> i used sugar-on-a-stick to install Sugar on HDD
[15:24:32] <njathan> the SoaS image
[15:28:26] <samsongoddy> is any of the OS build working http://wiki.laptop.org/go/Category:Linux_distributions
[15:28:36] <tch__> jo0nas, http://fpaste.org/209923/28780484/ does it look ok?
[15:29:43] <jo0nas> yeah - try that!
[15:29:45] <tch__> jo0nas, subject: sugar-presence-service broken due to deprecated telepathy-gabble Tubes API
[15:29:49] <tch__> haha
[15:30:05] <jo0nas> worst thing that can happen is you get a bounce
[15:30:18] <tch__> jo0nas, ok, good to know
[15:30:38] <jo0nas> or arguably worst thing that can happen is the Debian mailserver explodes and public media somehow framess you as responsible for it!
[15:30:47] <jo0nas> :-P
[15:31:46] <tch__> jo0nas, ill be famous ;)
[15:31:55] <jo0nas> that's the spirit!
[15:32:39] <tch__> jo0nas, sent
[15:33:16] <samsongoddy> tch, what can you say about this http://wiki.laptop.org/go/Category:Linux_distributions
[15:34:18] <tch__> samsongoddy, I see more options than I was aware of, probably TOO out of date
[15:34:45] <samsongoddy> so can ubuntu work with sugar, just like gnomr
[15:34:52] <samsongoddy> gnome
[15:36:47] <tch__> samsongoddy, sugar can work independently of gnome UI
[15:36:48] <jo0nas> I would be surprised if it worked as smoothly as GNOME - since GNOME has far more users and therefore gets far more attention
[15:37:09] <tch__> jo0nas, yeah, sugar needs more love
[15:37:11] <tch__> :)
[15:37:16] <samsongoddy> yeah
[15:37:24] <samsongoddy> right about that too
[15:37:56] <tch__> samsongoddy, I testing 104 using jo0nas packages, I am actually surprised
[15:38:11] <tch__> samsongoddy, works pretty well, (after I manually installed python-gi-cairo)
[15:38:40] <tch__> samsongoddy, running on debian jessie rc2
[15:38:40] <samsongoddy> great i am missing this
[15:39:13] <samsongoddy> i am expecting my parts this month so that i can test too
[15:39:30] <tch__> jo0nas, "Your message didn't have a Package: line at the very first line of the
[15:39:30] <tch__> mail body (part of the pseudo-header), or didn't have a Package: line
[15:39:30] <tch__> at all. Unfortunatly, this means that your message has been ignored
[15:39:30] <tch__> completely"
[15:39:34] <tch__> BS!
[15:39:38] <jo0nas> ohhh - it is literally named "python-gi-cairo" - how insane to not follow the same package name as other BIR bindings
[15:39:51] <samsongoddy> hahaha
[15:40:13] <tch__> jo0nas, I guess the multiple reports failed?
[15:40:34] <jo0nas> tch__: I dearly recommend you to use reportbug - exactly to avoid wasting time on getting such structural details aligned perfectly
[15:41:38] <jo0nas> tch__: did you send as a plaintext email, and with the Package: line as the *very* first line of the body?
[15:41:53] <tch__> jo0nas, good question,
[15:41:54] <jo0nas> arrh - ignore that question, please
[15:42:13] <jo0nas> I don't wanna get sucked into a wasteful time of debugging a mail composition
[15:42:23] <jo0nas> please just use reportbug and be done with it
[15:42:46] <samsongoddy> so jo0nas, where are from?
[15:43:14] <jo0nas> I live here: https://www.openstreetmap.org/node/2637311466
[15:43:53] <jo0nas> samsongoddy: how about you? Indonesia?
[15:44:23] <jo0nas> just a wild guess...
[15:47:23] <samsongoddy> Port Harcourt, Nigeria
[15:47:31] <samsongoddy> i am a Nigerian
[15:48:17] <jo0nas> cool!
[15:48:47] <samsongoddy> yeah
[15:49:22] * jo0nas looks up Port Harcourt...
[15:50:03] <tch__> jo0nas, it worked Bug#782414
[15:50:04] <tch__> :)
[15:50:45] <samsongoddy> tch_, how was the meeting??
[15:51:10] <jo0nas> tch__: thanks!
[15:51:52] <jo0nas> tch__: in case you didn't know, the bug is now at http://bugs.debian.org/782414
[15:54:52] <tch__> samsongoddy, the meeting is in 1 hour
[15:55:21] <samsongoddy> ouch i am gonna miss it
[15:55:51] <samsongoddy> please send me the log after the meeting
[15:55:52] <tch__> samsongoddy, we do what we can :)
[15:55:56] <tch__> samsongoddy, will do
[15:56:41] <jo0nas> http://meeting.sugarlabs.org/sugar-meeting/meetings
[15:58:55] <samsongoddy> thanks
[16:11:31] <samsongoddy> gat to go guys talk to you later
[17:06:32] <GitHub83> [sugar-artwork] SAMdroid-apps opened pull request #46: Social help icon, based on the design by Paul Cotton (master...socialhelp-popup) http://git.io/vvTaS
[17:32:16] <GitHub83> [sugar] SAMdroid-apps opened pull request #484: Add BundleLauncher (master...start-activity) http://git.io/vvTi2
[18:52:00] LaurensXO-74d1 is now known as Lauren`
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