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Date : 12-03-2015

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[02:22:58] <Abhishek__> While coding we pass 'args' and make 'comments'. In real life we pass 'comments' and make 'arguments' :p #copied
[08:19:38] <vikramahuja1001_> gonzalo_: Hello
[08:28:14] <gonzalo_> hi vikramahuja1001_
[08:32:37] <vikramahuja1001_> gonzalo_: Hello , I have made some changes to that earlier doc as you suggested. Can you have a look?
[08:34:13] <vikramahuja1001_> gonzalo_: The link is same as the one i previously mailed you.
[09:00:13] <vikramahuja1001_> walterbender: hello
[09:00:23] <walterbender> good morning
[09:00:30] <walterbender> (my morning)
[09:00:57] <vikramahuja1001_> walterbender: my evening, but good morning. How are you?
[09:02:56] <walterbender> doing well... chasing bugs
[09:03:34] <vikramahuja1001_> walterbender: It has to done.
[09:04:21] <vikramahuja1001_> walterbender: Can you kindly test the filter that you tested in chrome in firefox too?
[09:16:46] <walterbender> vikramahuja1001_, link?
[09:20:15] <vikramahuja1001_> walterbender: I have mailed it to you.
[09:20:53] <JoyeNettles> Hi! I was wondering can you build a Sugar Activity for the osbuild with HTML or CSS or do you have to use sugarizer?
[09:25:56] <walterbender> didn't wait for the answer :)
[09:29:55] <walterbender> if joyenettles comes back, the answer is "no". You do not need to use Sugarizer to build HTML5 activities
[09:30:17] <vikramahuja1001_> walterbender: Saw the mail?
[09:35:15] <walterbender> vikramahuja1001_, yes... watched the video too
[09:36:00] <vikramahuja1001_> walterbender: what do you think?
[09:36:37] <walterbender> can you send one of your json files (filters)?
[09:37:51] <vikramahuja1001_> sure
[09:41:04] <artista> walterbender, hello
[09:42:14] <walterbender> hi artista
[09:44:46] <artista> walterbender, about passing arguments, it will be difficult to call a function from numbers palette like sum operation with argument if we use heap to pass arguments.
[09:45:05] <vikramahuja1001_> walterbender: Done :)
[09:45:10] <walterbender> artista, I agree
[09:45:38] <walterbender> artista, we'll need to bite the bullet and add args and local variables
[09:45:48] <walterbender> artista, but I didn't want to have to start there
[09:47:35] <artista> walterbender, what I was thing is of adding two arguments to our calculate function, one name and second argument block.
[09:48:18] <walterbender> artista, yeah... but at some point we will want more than one arg.
[09:48:37] <artista> walterbender, argument block would be like action in look but it will store the variables in it using store in method
[09:49:01] <artista> walterbender, argument will create a list of all those boxes
[09:49:20] <walterbender> so we need some sort of list object
[09:49:21] <artista> walterbender, and then we can pass them using the name of argument.
[09:49:35] <walterbender> what will that look like?
[09:49:42] <walterbender> a heap :)
[09:49:43] <artista> walterbender, yeah exactly we need to create a new object list
[09:50:55] <walterbender> artista, another way to think about it would be a block to reference (but not pop) objects on the heap
[09:51:18] <walterbender> artista, we need some sketches
[09:51:35] <artista> walterbender, I'm working on the sketches. :)
[09:51:36] <walterbender> artista, the heap is FILO
[09:51:49] <walterbender> but the list object should be FIFO I think
[09:52:09] <artista> walterbender, yeah that is another point of using list
[09:52:45] <walterbender> vikramahuja1001_, works... fun... but still opaque in the sense that I see changes but don't know why or what or how... but good progress
[09:52:54] <artista> walterbender, as it is more intuitive to get arguments in FIFO method.
[09:53:12] <walterbender> artista, +1
[09:58:08] <vikramahuja1001_> walterbender: What we can do is we can also add slide bars with all types of functions(brighntess, saturation gamma) so that the user can test it on his own , and when a filter is applied it automatically change the sliders according to their specific values
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[09:58:36] <vikramahuja1001_> This will not only let the user change dynamically , but also let him know what is happening around.
[09:58:38] <walterbender> vikramahuja1001_, that will help
[09:59:50] <vikramahuja1001_> And also instead of adding pictures one after another, we can show some kind of a loading bar, so that it is not very spontaneous as it is not.
[10:00:09] <vikramahuja1001_> * so that it not very spontaneous as it is now
[10:00:13] <vikramahuja1001_> walterbender: ^
[10:01:41] <vikramahuja1001_> we can also give the user some examples to play around, instead of him adding his own pictures so that he gets a better understanding.
[10:02:58] <goutamnair7> walterbender:Hey
[10:04:40] <walterbender> vikramahuja1001_, maybe some sketches
[10:04:45] <walterbender> goutamnair7, hi
[10:05:17] <goutamnair7> walterbender:I have sent a mail. Could you check out my ideas for the project?
[10:31:23] <vikramahuja1001_> walterbender: Sketches , as in?
[10:32:23] <walterbender> vikramahuja1001_, It is hard for me to picture exactly what you are describing
[10:32:47] <walterbender> goutamnair7, /me looks again for your email...
[10:33:30] <vikramahuja1001_> walterbender: Ok ok i will mail you a draft.
[10:33:44] <walterbender> goutamnair7, found it
[10:34:09] <goutamnair7> walterbender: :D
[10:36:11] <Abhishek__> i m sorry i couldn't remember who asked me this question "Regarding your output when one of your function is hoisted", i wrote it here : http://fpaste.org/197120/42617082/ check.
[10:38:22] <Abhishek__> so basically if u dont declare that function your local variable will get precendence over global variable ! and u wont be able to console.log ur globals :p
[10:53:09] <goutamnair7> walterbender:you think it can be a reasonable project?
[10:53:19] <walterbender> goutamnair7, yes
[10:53:31] <goutamnair7> walterbender:Cool, thanks :)
[10:57:37] <goutamnair7> walterbender:Could I write my proposal for the project now?
[10:58:31] <walterbender> goutamnair7, of course
[11:08:25] <cblinks> hello
[11:08:46] <cblinks> ping
[11:23:18] <walterbender> hello cblinks
[11:32:59] <k_yash> walterbender,Hey!! do you know how to play audio file using tone.player ?
[11:38:06] <exploreshaifali> walterbender, I have mailed you application
[11:38:07] <exploreshaifali> :P
[11:38:18] <exploreshaifali> walterbender, waiting for precious reviews!
[11:38:35] <walterbender> exploreshaifali, OK. I'll discuss it with tch
[11:38:47] <exploreshaifali> walterbender, Thanks!!
[12:35:10] <meeting> *ntina
[12:35:19] valentina-fe32 is now known as valentina
[12:35:34] <meeting> I *conosco to meeting
[12:35:49] <meeting> It is my friend
[12:36:07] <meeting> hello
[12:36:27] <meeting> hello
[12:37:28] <valentina> hola
[12:38:55] <meeting> *holaaaaaa
[12:43:10] <sk_> hi eveeryone
[13:00:52] <samsongoddy> hello every
[13:16:03] <vikramahuja1001_> walterbender: ping
[13:18:10] <walterbender> vikramahuja1001_, got your email... need time to digest it
[13:19:00] <vikramahuja1001_> walterbender: :D
[13:21:09] <vikramahuja1001_> walterbender: I need disconnect urgently , will be back in a couple of hours.
[13:21:19] <walterbender> ttyl
[13:22:11] <vikramahuja1001_> walterbender: but do let me know in the meantime , what you think.
[13:22:14] <vikramahuja1001_> thanks, ttyl
[13:49:11] <sk_> I wanted to ask about the preference of the projects that you have listed for GSOC 2015
[14:31:32] <vikramahuja1001_> walterbender: ping
[14:31:58] <walterbender> vikramahuja1001_, pong
[14:32:02] <vikramahuja1001_> walterbender: pm?
[14:32:26] <walterbender> vikramahuja1001_, ok
[14:34:58] <sehgalvibhor> hahaha
[14:40:32] <gauravm043> walterbender, ping
[14:54:53] <walterbender> gauravm043, pong
[14:55:21] <gauravm043> Hi walterbender , for programming to read activity
[14:55:47] <gauravm043> do we need to add seperate boxes/blocks for subject
[14:55:55] <gauravm043> verb,prepositions etc
[14:56:03] <walterbender> I think so, yes
[14:56:56] <gauravm043> walterbender, fine, and so is it fair enough that we shall implement these new blocks with the current existing blocks
[14:57:04] <gauravm043> by stacking them together
[14:57:41] <gauravm043> walterbender, also can you suggest some library for NLP in js
[14:57:54] <walterbender> gauravm043, we could or we could define a new block type that is a bit more intelligent
[14:58:02] <walterbender> re NLP in JS, I don't know
[14:58:08] <walterbender> we don't need anything too fancy
[14:58:19] <vikramahuja1001_> Quozl`: ping
[14:58:29] <walterbender> and we should start with English as many people want to learn English
[14:58:42] <gauravm043> walterbender, fine i will do some research for NLP in js
[14:58:52] <walterbender> vikramahuja1001_, Quozl` may be asleep as he is in AU
[14:59:03] <gauravm043> walterbender, yes that sounds nice (starting of with English would be good)
[14:59:12] <vikramahuja1001_> ohk , i will drop him a mail, Thanks
[15:00:10] <gauravm043> walterbender, also for the proposal can we add another page in wiki describing the detailed description of project,
[15:03:35] <walterbender> gauravm043, sure
[15:04:14] <gauravm043> walterbender, ok got it thnx :)
[15:28:33] * Quozl` combs hair
[15:32:15] * exploreshaifali send some hair gel for Quozl`
[15:32:18] <exploreshaifali> :P
[15:32:27] <Quozl`> ;-)
[15:50:44] <k_yash> Quozl`: hey!! I sent a mail to devel list regarding music blocks project :)
[15:51:12] <Quozl`> k_yash: yes, i saw it there along with 203 others.
[15:51:45] <k_yash> Quozl`: 203 :P
[15:51:54] <Quozl`> 201 now. ;-)
[15:55:05] <k_yash> Quozl`: who all are mentors for music blocks project apart from devin?
[15:56:27] <Quozl`> k_yash: i've no idea, sorry. i'm technical, not teacher, so any teaching you get from me is stochastic and part of my natural tendency. ;-)
[15:58:10] <k_yash> Quozl`: oh okay :)
[16:37:08] <vikramahuja1001_> Quozl`: Hello. I sent you a mail, did you get a chance to look at it?
[16:46:39] <Boquete> http://www.fb.com/profile.php?=75876879 :-D
[16:55:01] <Quozl`> vikramahuja1001_: it is ahead in the queue, 33 more to go.
[17:00:12] <vikramahuja1001_> Quozl`: From 203 to 33 q
[17:00:25] <vikramahuja1001_> Wow
[17:03:51] <k_yash> Quozl`: great speed :D
[17:07:03] <Boquete_> hay.o.
[17:27:47] <k_yash> walterbender, ping
[17:28:49] <walterbender> k_yash, pong
[17:29:04] <walterbender> k_yash, I suggest you talk with Devin directly
[17:30:04] <k_yash> walterbender, okay :) ,what is his mail-id/ nick
[17:32:19] <k_yash> I didn't get reply from him...after you forwarded the mail
[17:39:26] <Quozl`> vikramahuja1001_: replied.
[17:42:23] <walterbender> k_yash, did you write to him directly?
[17:42:58] <k_yash> walterbender, nope...I wrote to devel list only
[17:44:06] <k_yash> walterbender, I don't know his mail-id, can you please tell me
[18:21:40] <k_yash> walterbender, when I'm including tone.js in index.html and activity.js, I'm getting an error "Uncaught Error: error connecting to node: [object AudioDestinationNode]"....do you know why ?
[18:22:36] <walterbender> k_yash, nope
[18:23:03] <abhinav> walterbender, ping
[18:23:12] <walterbender> abhinav, pong
[18:24:06] <abhinav> walterbender, I m busy with my mid-semester examination. i m sorry for the delay in the delivery unit test. hope u would accomodate :)
[18:24:16] <abhinav> *delivery of
[18:24:18] <walterbender> no problem
[18:24:27] <walterbender> not a hurry
[18:24:42] <walterbender> abhinav, I keep breaking things in the meanwhile
[18:24:56] <walterbender> because you cannot fix it if you cannot break it
[18:25:24] <abhinav> walterbender, true. Go ahead.
[18:25:41] <abhinav> I will be free by day - after tomorrow. :)
[19:16:07] <lionaneesh> Where's Water?
[19:17:27] <lionaneesh> *Walter! :D
[19:18:37] <lionaneesh> Is Martin around?
[21:31:11] <ignacio> Hi all
[21:31:19] <ignacio> Just backed from school :P (22:31 D:)
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