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Date : 22-03-2015

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[07:47:56] <Abhishek> exploreshaifali: hello
[07:48:26] <exploreshaifali> Hello Abhishek
[07:48:30] <Abhishek> exploreshaifali: so u want to maintain it on ur server as well .
[07:48:34] <Abhishek> r8?
[07:48:44] <exploreshaifali> yes
[07:48:58] <exploreshaifali> all the repos of all users should be there on server
[07:56:21] <Boquete> Heello.
[07:56:44] <Boquete> Abhishek, i did it :D Lol i know everything about SWITCH'es now. :o
[07:57:25] <Abhishek> Boquete: awesome, i saw the questions, were pretty easy only :p
[07:57:41] <Abhishek> Boquete: how u doing now with ur courses ?
[07:59:17] <Boquete> So I'm putting all screenshots in to powerpoint, and yesterday i almost done my speach, now i need to configure acces point because i want to everyone try it in my school so i will connect AP+switch and they can try it :)
[07:59:31] <Boquete> hope they will enjoy and listen, because i spent such a lot time on it
[08:00:35] <Boquete> And im trying to make it funny so i add some funny pics in the background etc. It's hard to create interesting speach/presentation because they normally don't care about it. I need to change it Abhishek :D
[08:01:29] <Abhishek> Boquete: VLAN only r8 ?
[08:01:55] <Boquete> Yep
[08:01:58] <Abhishek> but thats nice
[08:02:05] <Abhishek> all d best Boquete :)
[08:02:53] <Boquete> Maybe it's not interesting.. but they give me a topic, I just want to make best presentation in school :D That's the only thing I'm good in... Anyway thanks :D
[08:05:27] <Abhishek> Boquete: :p
[08:06:17] <Abhishek> exploreshaifali: what feasibility u were referring too ?
[08:06:24] <Abhishek> "consider turtle users, small kids we don't know how much it will be feasible"
[08:06:51] <Abhishek> i read the idea again, so that i dont miss out things
[08:10:25] <exploreshaifali> Abhishek, yes
[08:10:48] <exploreshaifali> we will need identities for each user
[08:11:01] <exploreshaifali> unique identities
[08:11:41] <exploreshaifali> Abhishek, and second chalange is providing really simple UI to users with all git feature
[08:11:46] <exploreshaifali> features*
[08:11:58] <exploreshaifali> we understand what clone is, fork is etc
[08:12:09] <exploreshaifali> but for kids it may be not so easy
[08:28:46] <Abhishek> exploreshaifali: do u assume that every user has a git repo of thr own ?
[08:29:12] <Abhishek> if thats true then it u get a unique identity
[08:29:25] <exploreshaifali> Abhishek, atm what I think of it as like
[08:29:49] <exploreshaifali> if a user write a new program and want to store on git, will create a repo
[08:30:08] <exploreshaifali> not this repo should be public to all other users too
[08:30:19] <exploreshaifali> so that they can fork it, clone it etc
[08:36:51] <Boquete> I think my hard drive will die soon :v Need to diagnost it, 4.2mb/s in 2.0 USB port :o rip
[08:44:18] <Abhishek> exploreshaifali: as far as i could think, on the turtle UI say for e.g, u want all the users repo that contains thr programs, also u want features for clone/PR/fork/STAR etc
[08:44:57] <Abhishek> once u have git repo u can get the unique identity for thr public repos
[08:45:34] <Abhishek> then u can map them over ur UI or search with the help of local database
[08:45:57] <exploreshaifali> yes we can have unique identities for the repo, but we also need to map that repo with its owner
[08:46:38] <Abhishek> now execution of action like PR,merge etc needs git control via bash
[08:47:03] <exploreshaifali> lets take an example
[08:47:13] <Abhishek> hmm
[08:47:15] <exploreshaifali> I created one program and create a repo for it
[08:47:36] <exploreshaifali> it is in my local env, now I want it to be at remote too
[08:48:09] <exploreshaifali> at this time, while storing data on remote server, we will need user's unique identity too
[08:49:28] <exploreshaifali> so that any time any where one can recognize who is the owner of which repo... the sam thing github do but for that we have unique usernames(is there any activity that handle such users identity?)
[08:49:38] <exploreshaifali> same*
[08:50:29] <Abhishek> exploreshaifali: u can create remote repo too
[08:50:36] <Abhishek> from command
[08:50:45] <Abhishek> thats not a problem
[08:51:07] <Abhishek> have u used github repo api ?
[08:51:08] <exploreshaifali> problem is to map a user with its repo
[08:51:24] <Abhishek> https://developer.github.com/v3/repos/#create check this
[08:51:30] <exploreshaifali> I have used gitub APIs
[08:51:38] <Abhishek> oh, nice
[08:51:55] <exploreshaifali> see what that say - Create a new repository for the authenticated user.
[08:52:02] <exploreshaifali> "authenticated user"
[08:52:19] <Abhishek> yes so once a user creates u can store the id and owner creds in ur local db
[08:53:19] <exploreshaifali> yes but for that we will need to force users to choose unique username
[08:53:35] <exploreshaifali> I don't know if it will be feassible or not
[09:00:44] <Boquete> Great. Can't load windows. W$ hate u so much/
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[09:26:59] <flakster> hello to everybody
[09:27:49] <Boquete> hello everybody,lets dance
[09:27:51] * Boquete singing
[09:38:19] <flakster> I'm triyng to run SOAS on a laptop but it only works one time, the next time I try to boot, it simply does not work and I have to create the Usb stick again. Somebody here knows why this is happening?
[09:42:43] <ignaciouy> flakster, are you using persistency?
[09:46:54] <flakster> ignaciouy, do you mean saving data on the stick? may be things like the color customization and the user name are being saved
[09:51:06] <ignaciouy> "may be"?
[09:51:12] <ignaciouy> flakster, you can use it liv
[09:51:13] <ignaciouy> e
[09:51:16] <ignaciouy> with persistence or without
[09:56:37] <flakster> I'm a begginer, perhaps that is something I am not aware of. What have to do to know it?
[10:10:42] <ignaciouy> flakster, how you created the usb stick?
[10:12:38] <flakster> i followed the instructions posted in the sugarlabs website
[10:14:23] <flakster> the part that says "with GNU/Linux"
[10:27:48] <flakster> Ignaciouy, what I understand so far is that issue has something to do with persistency. I'm gonna work on it . Thanks a lot
[10:28:03] <ignaciouy> flakster, np :)
[10:39:36] <Eli-5dce> satellit, do you have you have the old sugar firmware and software link?
[10:47:01] <Eli-5dce> satellit_e, do youu have the link to the old sugar firmware?
[10:50:01] <satellit> sorry not sure I do
[10:50:19] <satellit> I think it came with the Soas version..
[10:50:55] <satellit> http://wiki.laptop.org/go/Firmware#XO-4 for the XO-4
[10:51:10] <satellit> not fedora sugar
[11:40:11] <Abhishek> exploreshaifali: hello, my college router was messed up :/ so couldnt continue
[11:40:29] <Abhishek> so the github repo api , u said abt authentication
[11:40:34] <exploreshaifali> Abhishek, no issues at all, I understand
[11:40:40] <exploreshaifali> yes
[11:40:52] <Abhishek> whats that? isn't a hindrance r8?
[11:41:28] <exploreshaifali> we will need each kid to first sign into github for them to be authenticated
[11:41:40] <exploreshaifali> ofcourse that is not possible
[11:42:01] <exploreshaifali> I think its okay to ask students to choose unique username, what you say?
[11:42:27] <exploreshaifali> on ML devs are showing more concern for simple UI
[11:43:26] <Abhishek> exploreshaifali: yeah authentication is must !
[11:43:43] <Abhishek> i dont think ill be a issue
[11:43:53] <exploreshaifali> The UI that I have suggested in my post, that will be fine, right(if you remember)?
[11:45:28] <Abhishek> exploreshaifali: yes i remember
[11:45:39] <Abhishek> could u also make a rough sketch ?
[11:45:49] <Abhishek> or its fine
[11:45:56] <Abhishek> np
[11:46:23] <Abhishek> but i think UI should be simple and optimized :p
[11:47:08] <exploreshaifali> the side bar-pallet one need concern
[11:47:31] <Abhishek> yes i m reading the thread
[12:06:31] <exploreshaifali> Abhishek, ttyl, need to leave!
[12:06:59] <exploreshaifali> Abhishek, Thanks for showing interest and brain storming wtih me :)
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[13:38:36] <Eli-5dce-Ubuntu> ignaciouy, Hi
[14:11:28] <ignaciouy> Eli-5dce-windows, hi
[14:12:48] <meeting> *i *am *poor *starving *kid, *give me *food
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[15:08:57] <Mandeep_Singh> hey everyone.
[15:12:17] <Mandeep_Singh> hi Abhishek
[15:13:25] <Abhishek> Mandeep_Singh: hi
[15:13:30] <Mandeep_Singh> I want to discuss about the web confusion project.
[15:13:42] <Mandeep_Singh> Can you help giving some idea
[15:14:37] <Abhishek> Mandeep_Singh: sure
[15:16:11] <Mandeep_Singh> The project is about creating something for the children to get them learn html and css
[15:17:36] <Mandeep_Singh> The project is about creating something for the children to get them learn html and css
[15:17:39] <Mandeep_Singh> Abhishek, but I still couldn't understand how it will go
[15:18:57] <Mandeep_Singh> just thought some discussion may help.
[15:20:51] <Abhishek> Mandeep_Singh: i m coding, i will be back in may be 30 mins
[15:21:02] <Abhishek> just in bw code
[15:21:20] <Mandeep_Singh> Abhishek, okay
[15:21:27] <Mandeep_Singh> waiting
[15:35:00] <Mandeep_Singh> @all, can anyone suggest me something about sugar web project
[15:40:07] <Boquete> Abhishek, lol, you know what is definition of "stupid"?
[15:41:42] <Boquete> I can learn you how to be stupid :v Step 1. Create 3 partition. 1st SDA1=150gb Linux 2nd SDA2=50GB windows , 3rd SDA3=50gb free not selected. Want to use 3rd and format it to NTFS? Sure why not. Of course when formating don't check twice. Format SDA2 with all Windows files/Photos/Presentation/School files. roftl
[15:43:57] <Abhishek> Boquete: what were u trying to do ?
[15:44:18] <Abhishek> why using so many PT ?
[15:46:51] <Boquete> So i had Linux+Windows +3rd i just wanted to have for both systems
[15:47:09] <Boquete> Where i can easy copy files etc
[15:47:22] <Boquete> Such a fail
[15:47:34] <Abhishek> Boquete: yeah i know that :p but why ?
[15:47:53] <Abhishek> whats ur processors?
[15:48:39] <Abhishek> like lscpu ?
[15:52:34] <Boquete> Why i have linux+windows?
[15:53:03] <Boquete> Abhishek, *
[15:55:17] <Abhishek> Boquete: okay
[15:55:46] <Abhishek> Mandeep_Singh: hello
[15:55:54] <Boquete> What? :D
[15:55:56] <Mandeep_Singh> Abhishek, hello
[15:56:11] <Abhishek> have u played turtle confusion game ?
[15:56:23] <Mandeep_Singh> yes
[15:57:56] <ignacio> hey walterbender
[15:59:21] <Abhishek> Mandeep_Singh: u must have created figures thr r8 ?
[15:59:47] <Abhishek> like with the help of turtle blocks
[16:01:58] <Seun> Hello, I'm a student planning to apply to this organization for GSOC. Unfortunately, I'm new at this and as a result I am severely late to the party. I''ve been reading through some entries on the wiki and decided that introducing myself as soon as possible would be the best possible thing to do at the moment.
[16:03:20] <Abhishek> Mandeep_Singh: so the idea is same, its a prior test of HTML,CSS and design skills in such a way that u can create interactive web pages
[16:04:08] <Abhishek> Mandeep_Singh: how far u been with web confusion now?
[16:04:50] <Mandeep_Singh> Abhishek, about 8-10 days
[16:05:14] <Abhishek> nice, did u try some prototype?
[16:05:56] <Mandeep_Singh> actually no. As I am having sessional exams these days.
[16:06:17] <Mandeep_Singh> So quite busy in there. But also confused about web confusion.
[16:11:08] <Mandeep_Singh> Abhishek, you are doing PhysicsJS and DimensionJS this time
[16:15:34] <Mandeep_Singh> Abhishek, this is my first time in gsoc and I can't figure out what to write in proposal as I am not having enough descripton about the project
[16:19:24] <Mandeep_Singh> oops!! your project is 'Re-design collaboration with web technologies ' right?
[16:20:34] <Abhishek> Mandeep_Singh: mine is physics & dimension
[16:21:24] <Abhishek> Mandeep_Singh: walter says a clear roadmap of project must be into our proposal
[16:21:56] <Mandeep_Singh> Abhishek, this means I have to decide the description
[16:22:16] <Mandeep_Singh> !
[16:23:29] <Abhishek> Mandeep_Singh: speak to tony, he is mentor of WC ! if u r quite new, he will tell what else to come up with to make a clear roadmap
[16:24:44] <Mandeep_Singh> Abhishek, yes I talked to him but couldn't get clarity too much as he is also busy
[16:25:33] <Mandeep_Singh> Abhishek, can you tell me about a single page demo? What can be done there? etc.
[16:25:41] <Abhishek> Mandeep_Singh: did u put ur doubts on ML ?
[16:26:00] <Mandeep_Singh> Abhishek, I just mailed Tony
[16:27:17] <Mandeep_Singh> but not on the ml
[16:27:49] <Abhishek> Mandeep_Singh: plz put on ML as well
[16:28:09] <Mandeep_Singh> Abhishek, ok will do that
[16:28:41] <Mandeep_Singh> Abhishek, do you have some suggestion about the last question?
[16:29:26] <Abhishek> which Question ?
[16:30:16] <Mandeep_Singh> Abhishek, can you tell me about a single page demo? What can be done there? etc.
[16:30:46] <Mandeep_Singh> I mean I just want a clarity about how to take the first step.
[16:32:32] <Abhishek> Mandeep_Singh: u can create void JS set of web pages
[16:33:00] <Abhishek> more of CSS oriented for WC
[16:33:21] <Mandeep_Singh> Abhishek, please elaborate void JS
[16:33:43] <Abhishek> but i m not good in css, so cannot suggest the exact plan
[16:33:55] <Abhishek> Mandeep_Singh: means without JS
[16:34:03] <Mandeep_Singh> okay
[16:35:02] <Mandeep_Singh> Abhishek, thanks
[16:37:00] <Abhishek> Mandeep_Singh: http://wiki.sugarlabs.org/go/Activities/Turtle_Confusion and play the game to get a concrete idea
[16:37:28] <Mandeep_Singh> Abhishek, okay thanks for your help.
[16:39:09] <Mandeep_Singh> Abhishek, BTW what are you studying?
[16:50:09] <Mandeep_Singh> you might be busy okay. so thanks again for your time and help.
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[16:57:37] <Abhishek> http://play4changes.com/plugin_hack.js my js plugin hack :p just finished !
[17:03:30] <Mandeep_Singh> (Y)
[17:06:39] <Mandeep_Singh> Abhishek, nice work on website.
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[18:19:41] <bogdan_s_> For export in javascript of Turtle Block I need a confirmation regarding main idea of the project:
[18:19:55] <bogdan_s_> Somewhere in the application source files exist an array which holds the board during the game session. After we finish playing it, the application save the array in a file ( with .tb extention from what I see) and when I come back in the game I can restore a past session.
[18:20:06] <bogdan_s_> So, for this project what I have to do is parsing that array and generate javascript code and save it without load possibility?
[18:42:18] <SandCastleKid> Any GSoC mentors here?
[19:44:42] <SandCastleKid> walterbender: Hello
[21:03:24] <SandCastleKid> eMBee: Hello
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