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Date : 23-03-2015

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[01:07:54] <NickServ> NOTignacio is not a registered nickname.
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[01:42:35] <alexmherrmann> RahulHP, I'm filling it out too, what's up?
[01:43:09] <RahulHP> Wanted to see if we could do our own activities and/or update new ones
[01:43:22] <RahulHP> You?
[01:43:31] <alexmherrmann> Git integration for the Journal
[01:43:45] <RahulHP> That's nice
[01:44:52] <alexmherrmann> I don't know if we're supposed to be sharing this, but under the miscellaneous section, when they ask us to create a dev environment and change the word "Logout" to our email
[01:45:04] <alexmherrmann> is that part of the registration? I think I overcomplicated it
[01:45:19] <RahulHP> As in?
[01:45:29] <RahulHP> I think its just a way for them to check if we have set it up
[01:45:42] <alexmherrmann> I got it done, but I modified the source code, which I guess works
[01:45:57] <RahulHP> Yup, it should
[01:46:20] <alexmherrmann> okay, whew, I thought we had to use the register functionality for some reason
[01:46:59] <RahulHP> I think they just wanted to see if we can tinker with stuff
[01:47:05] <RahulHP> the ends matters, not how you did it
[01:49:02] RahulHP is now known as RahulHP|Away
[03:54:57] <RahulHP> Hey, I wanted to discuss my GSoC 2015 proposal with a mentor if possible. Is anyone there?
[05:41:12] <abhinav> jairath, ping
[05:51:22] <jairath> abhinav, pong
[05:52:16] <abhinav> jairath, did u submit the proposal for redesigning collaboration?
[05:52:40] <jairath> abhinav, It's still incomplete
[05:54:33] <abhinav> jairath, how did u take martin's response to " impact be on the Sugar Labs community" part?
[05:54:43] <jairath> yeah
[05:55:01] <abhinav> did u mail him for it?
[05:55:03] <jairath> abhinav, I asked him here in irc
[05:55:21] <abhinav> can I use the same response?
[05:56:21] <jairath> abhinav, i don't know but it will be more or less the same
[05:56:35] <abhinav> jairath, thats why
[05:56:56] <jairath> abhinav, maybe just ask him when he is here :-)
[05:57:25] <abhinav> jairath, whats his nick?
[05:57:43] <jairath> abhinav, tch, but he is not here atm
[05:58:08] <abhinav> ohh he is martin only... :P
[05:58:34] <abhinav> I have mailed him... response is waited.
[05:58:37] <abhinav> thanks
[05:58:42] <abhinav> *awaited
[07:05:52] Seun is now known as Seun[sleep]
[08:17:50] <niilante> hi
[08:18:02] <niilante> tony anderson
[08:18:33] <niilante> darkprince: ping
[08:18:53] <darkprince> niilante: pong
[08:19:26] <niilante> hi @ darkprince
[08:19:37] <darkprince> hey, niilante!
[08:20:17] <darkprince> are you tony?
[08:21:17] <niilante> please i have been trying to modify the logout button to put my email there in the sugar development environment, can you help me with that?
[08:22:45] <niilante> @ darkprince i dont know tony, i think he is the mentor in charge of the web confusion project
[08:23:20] <darkprince> yup he is the mentor
[08:24:48] <darkprince> Try it yourself first, consider yourself stuck in the middle of the Coding phase of GSoC and since you are familiar with the code base consider it as a challenge for you.
[08:24:53] <niilante> can you help me
[08:25:19] <niilante> kk i am working on it
[08:25:26] <darkprince> Best of luck :)
[08:26:19] <niilante> i used the sugarizer initally, i modifiedd the code but when i initiated the command it didnt work
[08:28:36] <darkprince> try it on the sugar build
[08:29:22] <darkprince> its easy, once you know the solution to this problem
[08:34:28] <niilante> kk i will
[09:02:44] <RahulHP> Hey, I wanted to discuss my GSoC 15 proposal. Is any mentor available?
[09:22:07] <rohitsakala> walterbender, ping
[09:34:05] <walterbender> rohitsakala, pong
[09:34:40] <rohitsakala> walterbender, I am not able register in the wiki page
[09:35:02] <walterbender> rohitsakala, I can create an account for you
[09:35:08] <walterbender> one sec
[09:36:50] <ignacio> walterbender, hey
[09:36:59] <walterbender> hi ignacio
[09:37:16] <walterbender> ignacio, I have a few new strings for you to translate in the po file :)
[09:37:17] <ignacio> walterbender, any news in turtlejs?
[09:37:22] <ignacio> yay
[09:37:33] <walterbender> ignacio, any news in geometry class?
[09:37:52] <ignacio> the teacher have license.. :D
[09:38:00] <ignacio> no class for few weeks
[09:38:53] <walterbender> ignacio, I'm telling you, you can do all of geometry class in Turtle :)
[09:40:51] <ignacio> walterbender, "Increase the size of the blocks." is in tour?
[09:40:59] <walterbender> yes
[09:41:10] <walterbender> I added more to the tour
[09:41:40] <walterbender> ignacio, BTW, I added the statistics analysis
[09:41:56] * walterbender needs to tune it a bit
[09:43:19] <jairath> walterbender, ping
[09:43:34] <walterbender> jairath, pong
[09:44:01] <jairath> walterbender, What other features are expected to be developed under Web Collaboration redesign other than the obvious sharing of content between activities
[09:44:38] <walterbender> jairath, the other key is discovery
[09:44:47] <walterbender> how is around and what are they doing?
[09:44:55] <walterbender> so that I can know that I can connect
[09:45:48] <jairath> walterbender, so discovery has to be system wide or just activity limited?
[09:46:34] <rohitsakala> walterbender, Can you tell me if your project is successfully completed, what will its impact be on the Sugar Labs community?
[09:47:48] <walterbender> rohitsakala, sure... one sec
[09:48:17] <walterbender> jairath, in the current system, discovery is system wide (the neighborhood view)
[09:48:56] <walterbender> rohitsakala, can you give me a link to your proposal? I'll read it again before answering you.
[09:51:06] <ignacio> walterbender, I think the analytics (the graphic) should be in bottom
[09:51:12] <ignacio> I mean Blocks > Analytics
[09:51:45] <walterbender> ignacio, que?
[09:51:52] <ignacio> walterbender, esto
[09:51:57] <ignacio> http://i.imgur.com/wY1xr2E.png
[09:52:17] <walterbender> ignacio, bottom layer?
[09:53:32] <rohitsakala> walterbender, I didn't read write it still.. I will write it then will ping you by tonigh.
[09:53:54] <ignacio> walterbender, yeah
[09:53:58] <ignacio> it should be in a bottom layer
[09:54:13] <rohitsakala> tonight*
[09:54:44] <walterbender> ignacio, I think the use case is you do a project, then look at the stats. so the stats should be on top
[09:54:58] <walterbender> you erase the stats with the erase button
[09:55:16] <walterbender> rohitsakala, +1
[09:55:23] <ignacio> walterbender, but the statics are up to blocks
[09:55:32] <ignacio> its a draw..
[09:56:08] <walterbender> I think I hide the blocks when I draw the stats?
[09:56:27] <ignacio> walterbender, yeah, but no the turtle >.>
[09:56:30] <walterbender> maybe I should hide the stats when I show the blocks?
[09:56:42] <walterbender> the turtle should be on top
[09:56:54] <ignacio> well, its not
[09:56:59] <walterbender> :P
[10:00:41] <jairath> walterbender, for web activities we can let the 'neighbourhood view' send a request to the server to fetch the list of users and the activity they are using
[10:01:22] <walterbender> jairath, something like that... the server keeps track of "rooms"
[10:01:45] <jairath> walterbender, yeah I that can be done very easily
[10:24:40] <artista> walterbender, hello
[10:24:48] <walterbender> artista, hi
[10:25:35] <walterbender> artista, I never wrote you the "why this is important blurb"?
[10:25:53] <artista> walterbender, yes :p
[10:26:12] <walterbender> artista, one sec
[10:45:00] <gonzalo_> Abhishek, pong
[10:46:01] <Abhishek> gonzalo_: need ur answer for my proposal after walter, deadline is near !
[10:46:18] <RahulHP> The deadline is 27 march right?
[10:46:18] <Abhishek> http://wiki.sugarlabs.org/go/Summer_of_Code/2015/Abhishek as 2nd mentor !
[10:48:52] <artista> gonzalo_, hello
[10:49:05] <gonzalo_> Abhishek, reading
[10:49:09] <gonzalo_> hi artista
[10:51:21] <walterbender> RahulHP, I think it is the 26th
[10:51:27] <walterbender> but check with Google
[10:51:30] <artista> gonzalo_, what will the impact be on the Sugar Labs community if Turtle Blocks for in-line programming project is completed successfully?
[10:51:40] <RahulHP> Oh ,I'll confirm
[10:51:49] <walterbender> ignacio, merged
[10:52:07] <RahulHP> Its in 4 days 4 hours right now. So around 27th midnight (IST)
[10:52:08] <walterbender> and I added a bunch more languages by parsing the Python version
[10:52:28] <walterbender> ignacio, we have about 50 langauges now :)
[10:54:31] <gonzalo_> artista, Could be a way to introduce to computing using different tools, and make more powerful to the sugar activities
[10:57:26] <artista> gonzalo_, thanks :)
[11:08:51] <RahulHP> Could anyone go through my proposal?
[11:09:56] <walterbender> RahulHP, you mean proof read it? sure
[11:10:08] <RahulHP> Thanks
[11:54:50] <Abhishek> gonzalo_: like a few days ago i was looking at suitable engines, i found matterjs , box2d js and physicsjs quite good, but tried few handouts on box2djs only,
[11:55:29] <Abhishek> but i have kept this as part of discussion with walter as well
[11:55:43] <Abhishek> like which would fit perfect for physics
[11:56:14] <artista> gonzalo_, Does sugar labs review the wiki page created?
[12:00:05] <RahulHP> Could someone go through my proposal? http://wiki.sugarlabs.org/go/Summer_of_Code/2015/Objective_Question_Module Thanks
[12:01:08] <ignacio> yay
[12:01:30] <RahulHP> Thanks (y)
[12:02:05] <walterbender> RahulHP, do you have any mock ups or sketches you can share in your proposal?
[12:02:16] <RahulHP> Not right now
[12:02:26] <RahulHP> My exams are going on so I am doing the proposal step by step
[12:02:29] <RahulHP> A few parts daily
[12:02:43] <RahulHP> Tomorrow, I'll add my project details and mock ups
[12:04:38] <walterbender> RahulHP, OK... I'll check in
[12:04:48] <RahulHP> Sure
[12:04:53] <RahulHP> Anything else I should take care of?
[12:12:54] <walterbender> RahulHP, focus on clarity of purpose and execution
[12:13:12] <RahulHP> As in?
[12:25:47] <k_yash> walterbender, Hey !! what will be the impact of my project(Music Blocks) on the Sugar Labs community ?
[12:29:31] <walterbender> k_yash, The correlation between music and mathematics has long been celebrated but there is another important reason why enhancing the music offerings in Sugar is important: it is one of the few areas where a learner can engage in open-ended problem solving.
[12:31:05] <walterbender> Schools everywhere are squeezing open-ended problem solving out of their curriculas in oirder to add more "measurable" learning experiences. We need to combat this trend by making a great platform for exploration
[12:33:04] <k_yash> walterbender, Yeah...The activity will also open a different stream and way of learning apart from activities related to memory, puzzles, programming :D
[12:47:31] <Abhishek> gonzalo_: was exploring matter , definitely powerful than other two. Thank you :)
[12:56:43] <gonzalo_> Abhishek, was the impression I had too
[13:11:50] <Mandeep_Singh> hi walterbender
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[13:24:52] <Abhishek> exploreshaifali_: i had a question.
[13:25:59] <exploreshaifali_> Abhishek, hi
[13:26:05] <exploreshaifali_> waht is that?
[13:26:26] <Abhishek> exploreshaifali_:will ur git UI be used just for turtle blocks ?
[13:26:40] <Abhishek> or for other sugar activities as well
[13:26:42] <exploreshaifali_> Abhishek, yes
[13:26:56] <exploreshaifali_> at present only for turtle blocks
[13:29:14] <Abhishek> exploreshaifali_: why so ?
[13:29:15] <rohitsakala> walterbender, ping
[13:29:47] <exploreshaifali_> Abhishek, to keep the things easy for statrting
[13:30:10] <exploreshaifali_> and also considering a gsoc project
[14:17:14] shrey is now known as shrey_yay
[14:25:58] <bliss-sid> shrey_yay: ping ;)
[14:27:26] <shrey_yay> bliss-sid, pong. really busy, what is it?
[14:29:16] <bliss-sid> shrey_yay: Will just take a bit of your precious time,I also want to send proposal regarding Image viewer export
[14:29:51] <bliss-sid> shrey_yay: Can you help me with how will you use javascript and GNOME together?
[14:33:49] <shrey_yay> bliss-sid, I'm also doing it for the first time, you can check proposals on wiki, contact walterbender or post your doubts on mailing list :)
[14:36:31] <abhinav> walterbender, ping
[14:39:40] <anindya> walterbender, there?
[14:44:31] <Abhishek> exploreshaifali_: but in general it is a +1 replacement of sugar journal ! So making it scalable would be great
[14:46:20] <Abhishek> exploreshaifali_: no doubt currently turtle blocks has a good match to say versioning and other is needed, but u should also look for future prospects
[14:51:57] <samsongoddy> hello everyone
[15:25:01] <rohitsakala> Abhishek, ping
[15:25:27] <Abhishek> rohitsakala: yeah
[15:26:05] <rohitsakala> How did you upload image file in the proposal wiki?
[15:27:13] <jairath> rohitsakala, there is a link on left menu in the wiki saying 'upload file'
[15:27:53] <rohitsakala> jairath , thanks
[15:28:25] <jairath> rohitsakala, :-)
[15:42:58] <jairath> walterbender, ping
[15:43:46] <Abhishek> is it necessary to maintain blog for gsoc?
[15:45:02] <shrey_yay> for what purpose?
[15:45:38] <Abhishek> to update progress ! will not be just wiki enough ?
[15:46:39] <samsongoddy> walter is not feeling cool, jairath
[15:48:33] <shrey_yay> Abhishek, I don't think its necessary but its better I guess
[15:49:39] <walterbender> jairath, pong
[15:49:55] <walterbender> Abhishek, recommend but it is up to you and your mentor
[15:52:25] <darkprince> walterbender, pm?
[15:54:31] <jairath> walterbender, I would like to know your views about 'web collaboration redesign' project
[15:54:33] <rohitsakala> walterbender, ping
[15:56:12] <walterbender> jairath, let me compose my thoughts
[15:56:19] <walterbender> rohitsakala, pong
[15:56:23] <jairath> walterbender, sure
[15:56:38] <rohitsakala> walterbender , pm ?
[15:56:55] <walterbender> rohitsakala, ok
[16:04:21] <shrey_yay> walterbender, there?
[16:06:57] <abhinav> walterbender, ping
[16:28:42] <walterbender> shredpub, hi
[16:28:45] <walterbender> abhinav, hi
[16:30:28] <anindya> walterbender, hi
[16:30:40] <walterbender> hi anindya
[16:31:12] <anindya> HI, I am applying for the project Web Confusion
[16:31:22] <anindya> I have been talking to Tony lately
[16:31:31] <anindya> and now I am writing my proposal
[16:31:58] <walterbender> anindya, sounds good
[16:32:03] <anindya> On the wiki, it says "if your project gets selected, what will its impact be on the Sugar Labs community?"
[16:32:16] <walterbender> anindya, yes
[16:32:35] <anindya> I was wondering if you could give me your answer on this so that I can add it to the proposal
[16:33:06] <walterbender> anindya, please remind me which of Tony's projects
[16:33:27] <anindya> Web Confusion : HTML/CSS learning like turtle block
[16:33:57] <anindya> like turtle confusion.
[16:34:29] <walterbender> OK
[16:35:45] <anindya> Should i send you a e-mail regarding this so that you can send your answer when you have some time?
[16:35:47] <abhinav> walterbender, pm?
[16:36:39] <walterbender> abhinav, OK
[17:10:42] <GitHub134> [sugar-docs] SAMdroid-apps closed pull request #71: Fixed redirect link from html and jasmine (master...fixed_redirect_link_from_HTML) http://git.io/xHvK
[17:10:46] <GitHub80> [sugar-docs] SAMdroid-apps pushed 2 new commits to master: http://git.io/hAYZ
[17:10:46] <GitHub80> sugar-docs/master a58bc88 Akash Agrawall: Fixed redirect link from HTML
[17:10:46] <GitHub80> sugar-docs/master e635d8c Sam Parkinson: Merge branch 'aka001-fixed_redirect_link_from_HTML'
[17:44:30] <rohitsakala> walterbender , ping
[17:44:55] <walterbender> pong
[17:45:04] <rohitsakala> walterbender, pm?
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[19:31:46] <ignacio> Hi
[19:31:50] * ignacio is at school
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[23:44:45] <Abhishek> http://arstechnica.com/security/2015/03/google-warns-of-unauthorized-tls-certificates-trusted-by-almost-all-oses/ :p
[23:50:57] <alexmherrmann> That's scary
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